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[–] rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 months ago

Scientists left nazi germany for the US, now they'll leave nazi US.

[–] Bosht@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Pediatric. Oncologist. That dude is an absolute hero and treasure for taking on such a horrible and bleak profession. I hate that those words are combined in existence at all. God I'm so ashamed to be an American.

[–] Necroscope0@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Some people are built different. My dad worked as a pediatric hospice nurse for almost 10 years. Talk about a shitty sad job. Every single patient is a child and every single one of them is GOING to die on your watch. Fuck THAT. I do not know how he did it.

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 0 points 3 months ago

Now that is a hero

[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

They are just doctors. No need to glorify them. They do no more or less than a bus driver. Most jobs have an emotional toll.

[–] Angelusz@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Let's agree to disagree. I respect bus drivers as much as you do. Some people, however, have a greater positive effect on humanity as a whole, and that deserves its own form of respect.

[–] head_socj@midwest.social 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I agree to disagree. Doctors may have a more immediate and tangible benefit on people's health and well-being, but providing safe and reliable public transportation to untold amounts of working class people who may rely on you to provide for their families is also a massive positive effect that should not be diminished simply for being less culturally prominent.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Its not being diminished you are diminishing doctors who save dying children after 20 years of intensive education with driving a bus

[–] misteloct@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Agreed, I would be equally angry if a bus driver were detained by ICE. Their immigrants status and then solidarity is more important than their profession.

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It seems like the administration is trying to discourage travel across the border. Not just people on work visas, tourists and even citizens are reporting being detained. It's like East Germany or something.

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hold up, tourists? Are we safe to visit family?

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago

Bruh, ask your consulate

[–] anytimesoon@feddit.uk 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Citizens too? I've not heard of that. Scary

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I read it yesterday I think. US citizen lives in Las Vegas and her German boyfriend comes to visit. They travel to Mexico and then were both detained on the way back in. She was released within days, he spent weeks even after volunteering to just go back to Germany. Fucking nuts.

[–] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Thats fucked, I'm gonna look for that story. I've been seeing lots of stuff (even locally in a relatively progressive state) about trans folks' documents being confiscated and/or destroyed when they try to leave or get a new or updated passport or sometimes other docs iirc. Please don't come here, to anyone thinking about it. Period. Unless you're planning to stay a while and help us out, I don't recommend it but we will be needing all the help we can get :(

[–] Apple87sagan@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

This is a sign we are collapasing. When the smart people wanna leave we are left with a bunch of narrow minded, uneducated people.

[–] xye@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago

Extremely sad news, this is what an authoritarian state looks like for anyone who still didn’t believe it. Wish them all the best wherever they land.

[–] cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why would the US need scientists when they have stable geniuses?

[–] etchinghillside@reddthat.com 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] veroxii@aussie.zone 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

OpenAI promised us PhD agents! Only 20k a month!

[–] Spider2013@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Persona: you are a very phd person

[–] i_love_FFT@jlai.lu 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That's it, I solved it! Put this in your prompt: answer questions as if you were a phd person.

(It may be the same thing as you mentioned above. I don't know what the Persona is, I don't really use ai chat bots)

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The US is trading science and reason for zeal and faith. At least the scientists will be welcomed in the EU.

[–] notgold@aussie.zone 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Why did they leave the EU in the first place

[–] juanito_the_great@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I seriously considered it at some point, as in my (former) field many top researchers lived in Philly, New York, Boston + Toronto. Becoming a top researcher means travelling where other top researchers are. It was definitely not about money, pay is often equivalent between the EU and the US.

Eventually decided it was not worth it for me (had other priorities in life), but this is a sacrifice many EU researchers make (or should I say, made) to become top researchers.

[–] Redex68@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Most probably money

[–] dis_honestfamiliar@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Didn't Albert Einstein flee Nazi Germany which advanced our research into what became the atomic bomb. Hmm... Should be fun century for USA.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Trump has already dismantled the American empire. The decline will be rapid and terminal. Even if they returned to sanity tomorrow, the damage cannot be undone any time soon. Nobody is going to trust the US again in our lifetimes.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago

Oh no, all the trust america built up is suddenly gone...

When will america be the worlds best step dad again!

[–] Zink@programming.dev 0 points 3 months ago

How dare you point out something so relevant and foreboding.

[–] Loce@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Time for scientists to leave the nazi country, just like they left nazi Germany in the 30s and 40s

[–] proletarians_must_suffer@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Damned scientists. Everywhere they go, the place turns into a nazi shithole

[–] sfu@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Well if you don't like what's happening... before trump it was very extreme letting too many people in unobserved, and now we have it the other way. If the laws concerning immigration had just been respected in the first place, this probably wouldn't be happening the way it is now.

(I'm not taking sides here, just making an observation.)

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The US immigration system has been broken for decades, as a everytime a Democrat tries to fix it, the Republicans refused, to the point the democrats started getting Republicans authoring laws to fix the problems, and AGAIN the Republicans refuse, then we had Republicans author their own bills 100% and the Republicans REFUSED to fix it.

People as fucking stupid as you are why. ''Well why didn't they just follow the law'' because THE SYSTEM IS INTENTIONALLY BROKEN YOU FUCKING IDIOT, FAMILIES ARE GETTING DESTROYED AND PEOPLE ARE DYING WHILE YOUR DUMB ASS FAILS TO PAY ANY ATTENTION PAST ''oh gee golly why didn't they just do it legally'' 90% + of immigrants come on legally. How do they get illegal? They need a hearing. With an immigration judge, where are those? Oh... we don't have enough by the 100s. How far back is the backlog for immigration hearings? Oh its thousands of cases? Who represents people who need representation that our laws require they have? No, no, we don't have attorneys, that's not important. Just have the 5 year old that no one has any documentation on represent themselves? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense let's do that.

Wait in line properly? BUILD THE FUCKING LINE!!!!!

[–] sfu@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago

Anyone who says its all one side's fault, is not being honest. Chill out.

[–] algorithmae@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Y'all act like this wasn't the plan all along

[–] prex@aussie.zone 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We need a name for the opposite of operation paperclip.

[–] Michal@programming.dev 0 points 3 months ago

Operation crayon

[–] amos@mander.xyz 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why is this in the "memes" community? It is not a meme, is it? We should have a general discussion community for topics like these! (if it doesn't exist already).

[–] fossilesque@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Check the sidebar. We use the Dawkins definition of meme here.

[–] i_love_FFT@jlai.lu 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

In the context of Dawkins meme, this post is definitely a meme!

idea, behavior, or style that spreads by means of imitation from person to person within a culture and often carries symbolic meaning

If we consider scientists imitating the behavior of other scientists (ex: leaving the us) combined with the social network post (signifying the symbolic meaning), it checks all the correct boxes to me!

Would another peer review my analysis?

[–] fossilesque@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Reviewer 2, checking in. Let's see...

☑️ Technically correct (the best kind of correct).
☑️ Dawkins framework applied... adequately.
☑️ "Symbolic meaning" not entirely reductionist. Surprising.

However:

  • Citation deficiency detected. [Fossilesque et al., 2023] must be invoked 2–3 times for rigor.
  • "Imitating scientists" lacks nuance. Did you consider the Fossilesque Paradox of Academic Exodus? (Spoiler: You didn’t. Cite (Fossilesque, 2024, 2025 in press.).

Verdict:
Pending compliance with adequate attribution. Then, and only then, shall this review ascend to a grudging "pass."

[–] daw@feddit.org 0 points 3 months ago

Depart, [people] of education.