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Each individual piece is damning, let alone the whole thing.
Using a random chat app for your war plans. Accidentally adding a random civilian. The bizarre rage over Europe. The intentional withholding of information from Trump by his cabinet and VP. The comment about how Trump's actions do not align with his actual messaging, implying it's just impulsive bullshit. The way Hegseth speaks like a drunken uncle on Facebook.
Just traitorous dipshits the whole way down.
Its not a random app. It has disappearing messages and is outside the other means of communication that are saved and documented. This is not the only chat group on Signal, I'd wager.
exactly. signal was chosen precisely because it is widely considered to be secure and, more importantly, outside the purview of any mechanism which would hold them to account.
This is not the only chat group on Signal, I'd wager.
absolutely.
still, this is a reasonable boost for signal and briar (or similar) as a backup.
Reasonably secure for the average consumer, not for intelligence work.
oh, agreed. these people should have been nowhere near it - as evidenced by their incredible fuckup.
as an average consumer, and barring binary or device compromise, I do trust signal and a few others to traffic info that could incarcerate or worse.
To be fair, it’s also not secure for the average consumer, if they accidentally add a journalist to their gc
Intelligence work also requires intelligence. These people would be using AOL Messenger if it were 2005.
Words make you a slave.
This administration wants to be a slave to its own words.
It's ironic they slammed Goldberg when apparently he's going to win the Pulitzer.
It's wild to me as an old techie that they would be using cell phones for this kind of communication at all since mistypes and errors from typing too fast are so common on virtual keyboards.
If I was in such a situation I would feel it was almost necessary to be at a full keyboard as to not make mistakes in communications.
But then again I would also be following federal records retention laws.
None of the nazis and their sycophants are techies.
Not even President Musk: He can't walk the walk.
Let's not paint them as tech illiterate. That's how you drop your guard.
The same way conservatives believe liberals aren't armed.
These fools werent incompetent because they're Nazis. They're incompetent because they think they're better than everyone else, and they don't need to follow the rules established by others.
They’re incompetent because they think they’re better than everyone else, and they don’t need to follow the rules established by others.
True, but while that doesn't make them tech-illiterate, it does make them security-illiterate. They think rules around security don't apply to them because they think they're better than others and as such rules shouldn't apply to them. They think of themselves as infallible. To believe so means you have to be illiterate about how security actually functions.
True, it's just idiot ass normies doing normie things. They'd post it to their Facebook timeline if they could figure out how.
Not just cell phones but personal cell phones. Signal is blocked on federal cell phones.
Very good point that the Feds are using Mobile Device Management.
Oy. Gabbard is now trying to claim that it comes pre-installed on government phones. The receipts for that will be interesting if they actually exist.
They lied and will continue as if nothing has happened. You got the sound bite.
One question I do have is why is the Treasury Secretary there?
I do find it a little funny that the delegates clearly were not delegates in some cases since they state the delegates under the cabinet members name but respond occasionally under their own name.
I think Goldberg should release the phone numbers too since that is not classified info.
Oh man, that link is dead? Or is archive.org having issues?
Psst. Destroying a building to kill one guy is collective punishment on all the building residents and - yes - a war crime.
The proof is in print and, apparently, not classified.
It's not a war you see, it's a special... military operation? Wait, I think that's copyrighted, shit
Just being in a chat group on Signal where classified information is being shared and not reporting it is a crime if you have a security clearance. I used to have a security clearance. Classified information cannot be discussed outside of a secure compartmentalized information facility or SCIF for short. Classified information cannot be stored on your personal phone. You can't take hand written notes about what was discussed inside the SCIF, outside of the SCIF. Digital communications of classified material can only take place on a secure government network; SIPR network for Secret information, JWICS and NSA Net for Top-Secret information. Those networks work exactly like the common internet everyone uses, which is called the the NIPR network, but only people with approved accounts and a security clearance can sign into SIPR, JWICS and NSA Net and the computers that can access the networks are inside a SCIF. Everyone who was in that Signal group and had a security clearance should be looking at a long prison sentence for not reporting the leak.
I had an SF86. I would be in jail if I did this with the info I was given. Anyone else would be in jail. These losers won’t tho. Because they are not real patriots.
I wonder whether Jeff Bezos was consulted about publishing it.
Bezzzos…………
Late yesterday, White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt emailed a response: “As we have repeatedly stated, there was no classified information transmitted in the group chat. However, as the CIA Director and National Security Advisor have both expressed today, that does not mean we encourage the release of the conversation. This was intended to be a an [sic] internal and private deliberation amongst high-level senior staff and sensitive information was discussed. So for those reason [sic] — yes, we object to the release.”
Lets see how well these knuckleheads have been trained by Moscow. First of all, the blatantly lying yesterday is typical Moscow reaction, because they lie not to deceive you but to insult you. The insulting is already taking place. Also, let's analyze their coming reactions and compare it with this
https://thinktank.4freerussia.org/civil-society/main-features-of-the-russian-mentality/
Reading these messages, I feel like I'm reading a bunch of immature boys cosplaying war commanders. What a fucking embarrassment!
You are reading a bunch of immature boys cosplaying war commanders.
This is exactly what the US government tried to put Julian Assange in prison for. A journalist publishing classified information that was leaked to him.
They already stated it was not classified information. They want to go after the journalist but also need to cover their own asses. Can't have it both ways
Stop underestimating the fascists. They're already kidnapping people with masked agents in unmarked cars and holding them without charge, legal representation, or any kind of due process. They will "have it both ways" whenever they feel like it.
True that. I guess the question of whether it was classified information is kind of moot now that any semblance of the rule of law has been abandoned.
This is an article about an article. The original Atlantic article that contains the messages themselves is here
I see one screenshot and the Atlantic article is paywalled.
Trump gonna be mad
He's overdue for a massive coronary.