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Hypothetically, that is.

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[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 85 points 4 days ago (2 children)

How many billionaires need to be publicly executed to fix the usa political system.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 74 points 4 days ago

Title says unethical

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago

More than just the ones in America, I'd reckon.

[–] koncertejo@lemmy.ml 53 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Making a lot of clones of myself, raising them all differently, and seeing how many of them turn out in the same way as me.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Agreed, it's an interesting thing to think about at least. The nature vs nurture debate is practically as old as time itself but it feels like we're no closer to an answer outside of "it's a bit of both." But how much?

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[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 40 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Allow all kinds of drugs and other enhancements in sports and see where the limits of the body are

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 13 points 4 days ago

Ultra Olympics

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[–] fubarx@lemmy.world 38 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Worldwide, making all coffee decaf, and not telling anyone.

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[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 4 days ago

You fucking monster

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[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 37 points 4 days ago (9 children)

Take ten or twenty thousand children, take over a fairly large portion of a midwestern state, build a large and complete environment for them to live in including towns, museums, theme parks etc. and raise them as normal Americans but absolutely 100% avoid introducing them to the concept of religion until they're 25.

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 11 points 4 days ago

Before the oldest turns 24, that small city would just sublime into a higher plane, leaving behind nothing but a beautiful prairie and a fresh minty smell.

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[–] MoreFPSmorebetter@lemmy.zip 26 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Actually just stop allowing anyone with "defective" genes to reproduce.

I am fully I wouldnt exist in this hypothetical world (-11 vision in both eyes), but I would be curious what would happen if we only ever let perfectly healthy people with no genetic defects have kids.

Like would it eventually just become a perfect world where nobody needs glasses or asthma inhalers? Or would we die off because not enough genetically "perfect" people exist to make this plan work?

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'd be curious to see how the definition of "defective" evolves over time in a society like that.

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[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

Some traits end up being beneficial. For instance sickle cell anemia vs malaria.

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 10 points 4 days ago

Any malady that could get through would, in theory, be able to destroy nearly everyone. If the response that would grant immunity to future generations were a mutation with a negative side effect attached, you've just ended humanity (assuming any survived). We've lost plant species to similar.

This one example ignores a whole host of other problems with the idea.

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[–] Iceblade02@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago

Most research on human embryonic stem cells - currently impossible in western countries due to ethics concerns.

Theoretically, if a few stem cells from every embryo early on and frozen that might be a huge boon for them once they grow up to adults with potential health issues. Need a new heart? Grow one in a lab from the preserved cells - perfectly compatible.

Currently these kinds of things can't be explored, and whilst the ethics may be dubious the potential medical benefits left on the table are astonishing.

[–] ace_garp@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Just wipe out ALL mosquitoes, and then measure what the actual influence is on the food-web for other animals and plants.

[–] CapitalNumbers@lemm.ee 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

no joke but i remember reading something about this aagggeesssss ago where a group of researchers modelled the effects of no more mozzies on the food chain and found that, because barely anything fucking eats them, their eradication would be negligible

[–] ace_garp@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Glad to hear it.

Proceeding with Phase 1.

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[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I really want someone to just really start messing around with the human genome, see the limits of gene expression. Let's add horns, let's add tusks, let's add tails, and wings, and carapaces, and antennae, and claws, let's just see what happens. Human evolution has gotten so tired and trite; let's add some spice.

[–] fermuch@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Don't let the furrys hear you

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[–] callyral@pawb.social 21 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Here's a very unethical linguistics experiment that I think would be interesting:

Raising a group of children completely isolated from any language, spoken or otherwise. They would not be fully isolated from people, but those people would not be able to communicate with each other in the vicinity of the children (no speaking, no gestures, etc.) Of course, to isolate them from language would mean strictly controlling their lives (very unethical). Could they communicate with each other, and maybe even develop a language?

[–] klugerama@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feral_child

Not a controlled environment but it's happened several times, with varied results.

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[–] darklamer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'd be really curious about the Tarzan experiment, having a human infant raised by apes.

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

I'd like to see if we can build hybrid computer systems using cultured animal tissue (like Cephalopod or maybe GMO human / Cephalopod), basically grown onto an array of tiny wires. Push sensory information through the tiny wires and see if the lump of cells can learn. If it does, put it in a Eva. Or a butler robot. Or a robot vaccuum.

Idk. Its an idea for a scifi novel I've had. Some company does this and what people don't realize is the supposedly autonomous systems making their lives easier are fully conscious but live tortured existences. It would get more and more lovecraftian as the cephalopod hybrids some how take over (I was thinking maybe cancer? or networked mind) and start chopping everyone to bits. Maybe they try and eat them but they have no mouth, like how an octopus arm when detach will hunt and try to feed a non-existent mouth.

[–] ivanovsky@lemm.ee 8 points 4 days ago

I think that's a black mirror episode (what dystopian shenanigan isn't, nowadays?) , something like they copied your mind digitally and then (cruelly) trained the copy to become your perfect digital assistant.

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[–] Ceruleum@lemmy.wtf 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Try to find out at which temperature Musk begins to melt.

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[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 18 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Take the people expressing their violent political fantasies in threads like this and make them live in the worlds they're advocating for.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Lobotomize all conservatives to see if their IQ increases.

We've exhausted all other options.

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[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 16 points 4 days ago

Raise a group of a dozen newborns with absolutely zero contact outside of their own group. Food and necessities get provided of course, but no language learning, no nurturing, no generational teaching.

What kind of community do they form when they are old enough to grasp such things? Do they develop their own language; or a different method of communication entirely. How do they stratify their society, or even do they?

At a certain point, when they are old enough, introduce challenges that only work if they cooperate with one another. See what happens.

[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

The mouse utopia experiment but on humans. Ive always seen a subset of people who bemoan having to work or develop specialized skills to contribute to society. They want everything provided for them so their whole life can be leasure and comfort. A lot of socialism and communism selling points tend to be about having social services and things provided to you.

I'm interested to see the long term affects of people in a society where EVERYTHING is provided for you all the time. Every survival concern, sexual pleasure, every base urge, every whim and desire. For decades and decades and decades. Would it be a genuine good for society or would it be a monkeys paw situation?

Ive always hypothesized that any human society that attempts this will quickly erode into something similar to the mouse utopia.

Without any environmental pressures or meaningful challenges to overcome a large portion of the population without strong internal drives will become lethally/suicidally lazy, apathetic, and narcicistic

I suspect theres a large amount of people who simply have zero internal drives to apply themselves to doing a thing unlesd they have to. without the pressure of survival in either a physical or economic way they would simply sit on their ass, jerk off, play games, and maybe groom themselves, for decades until they die. Merit and overcoming challenge are important aspects of drive and dopamine generation. You deprive a person of those things they become lethargic. If that sentiment proves itself true it will be a hard pill to swallow for a lot of ideologies.

Unethical questions:

Statistically speaking, how many people would escelate their wants to socially taboo depravities? How quickly?

How long on average would it take for pleasure to become less meaningful in the face of instant gratification? Is there a logarithmic function that charts this?

How many people on average decide to begin self harm out to seek novel sensations? How long until onset?

How many people choose to live out a full life vs taking the placebo cyanide capsule and being removed from experiment? What would their reasonings be?

[–] nylo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 4 days ago

the issue that caused societal collapse in the ~~mouse utopia~~ Behavioral Sink was overpopulation, not that they had their needs met comfortably lol

for a more accurate comparison look at Rat Park Experiment.

TL;DR: rats in solitary confined standard lab testing cages will consume lots of morphine laced water available as an alternative to normal water, rats in a spacious cage with other rats of both sexes and entertainment are not very interested in the morphine laced water. in fact they drank more of the laced water when naloxone, a drug that negates the effects of opioids, was added to it. the implication being that the rats were more interested in sweet water than morphine in good social conditions

[–] stelelor@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 days ago

I think we see aspects of this in the behaviour of the rich and ultra-rich (where "screw the rules I have money" applies). It's pedophilia all the way down.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Making chimeras sounds cool as shit. What's even unethical about it? Why can't I have an army of beavermen to dam the world's waterways unless my ransom demands are met?

Ok, I think I see where the unethical part lies...

[–] GuyFawkes@midwest.social 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah it’s beaverPEOPLE, not beaverMEN. Get with the times!

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[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Lock someone is a room-wide 24h fMRI or some other imaging technique to get a full recording of a human body working.

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[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

I heard there's a guy called Luigi with a cool idea.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 13 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Seems pretty tame compared to various other answers, but keeping people under anesthesia longer than expected during surgery and seeing how it affects things like memory or personality.

Supposedly after an open heart surgery I had gone through over a decade ago, my mother swears my personality changed. Though I can't remember if that's true because my memory has felt, in a sense, kinda foggy since then. So I wanna know if it was because I was under for longer than expected or because the surgery itself.

[–] medgremlin@midwest.social 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I would wager that it's more to do with the surgery itself. Even transient hypoxia from blood not getting to your brain for a little bit can make a big difference. Anesthesia is used very frequently with rare complications, but complex heart surgeries have higher complication rates.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Who from the US government will last the longest in a bonfire. Although it might be questionable if this experiment is really unethical.

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[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 12 points 4 days ago

I love the story of the father who raised his son on Klingon until it became too awkward for modern usage.

Thought that would be a fun experiment on my child. Don’t know much Klingon though.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

I always found the stories of human/chimp hybrids fascinating.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanzee

https://bigthink.com/the-past/soviet-human-ape-super-warriors-humanzee-ivanov/

Unproven, but theoretically as possible as horse/donkey, zebra/horse, or lion/tiger.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 11 points 4 days ago (6 children)

I find those rats with the NOVA1 gene fascinating. I wonder what would happen if we downright tried to give rats human-level intelligence? They are more empathetic than humans I hear, they would make the perfect replacement for our species!

And another thing I would like to try, is to find a really big person, and see how far they can swallow me feet-first, before they run into problems, or one of us is injured.

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[–] steeznson@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The metal gear solid thing where you clone someone into two separate people but one gets all the recessive genes and the other gets all the dominant ones

[–] Big_Boss_77@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 3 days ago

You'd have to have the third, true 1:1 clone as control for this to be a valid experiment.

[–] scbasteve7@lemm.ee 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Put a hundred toddlers on an island. Leave a few older children that will disappear a few years later that are taught to fish/hunt/gather. See what kind of language develops, or what kind of civilization. How many survive?

It is VERY unethical. Add variables to other islands, such as the amount of children, and what you teach them.

You know there was a mad king who tried to do the same?

Babies just end up dying if not talked to. He also wanted to figure out the language of gods

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