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Anon conflates the desire for a more involved and expanded social life with just having sex, thereby perfectly explaining their lack of a more involved and expanded social life.

Yea everyone knows as soon as you have sex once you never feel lonely again.

This entire post is precisely the problem. The fact that everyone here is conflating sex with mental health support is the reason why men's mental health isn't being taken seriously.

Men are not socialized to, and even actively discouraged from being emotionally vulnerable with each other.

We won't need men doing more fucking, we need men to sit down together and talk about their depression, and we need other men to be supportive and not downplay these conversations with sexist or homophobic slurs.

Yeah, totally! Getting my dick wet is precisely the kind of emotional and intellectual connection I'm missing! The penis is my data transfer cable.

1. That is sex. You can have all the sex you want and still be lonely.
2. Those stats are probably the "we asked some people" kind which means everyone who had their first relationship at 24 will say that "oh yeah technically i was with that random girl in grade school so you know what lets say its 12"

Shit. I've had sex that made me feel even more alone than before.

(Had to figure out how to word that.)

"Male loneliness epidemic" is about male friendships more than anything no?

"premarital sex" also known as sex

>It's not just about getting laid (though that's part of it.)
>It's also about friends
>But even in the "getting laid" part, it's moreso about a real emotional connection in conjunction with the sex, I believe they're called "relationships."
>while some is just incels, it's also normal people
>If we had more Third Spaces that aren't centered around booze and money, it'd go a long way to helping the issue
>it's not just men.

There's a difference between having had sex and not being lonely... If these idiots would stop equating being lonely to not getting laid there wouldn't be so much resistance to the idea that there is a problem. Yeah, not being able to find someone to have sex with sucks but there's a whole lot of other shit missing that comes before that. If your only problem is not getting laid you're not lonely you're horny.

What are stats on suicide rate for men? Or depression? Wouldn't those be much better indicator than whether or not they had sex or marriage?

Yup. the sexual loneliness epidemic is easing up, because we're all fighting back to 'normal'. But ask most men this simple question: how many non-sexual friends do you have in your life that you communicate with more than once a week?

Those stats cannot be right.

Just to be clear, there is a loneliness epidemic: https://www.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/surgeon-general-social-connection-advisory.pdf

In the scientific literature, I found confirmation of what I was hearing. In recent years, about one-in-two adults in America reported experiencing loneliness. And that was before the COVID-19 pandemic cut off so many of us from friends, loved ones, and support systems, exacerbating loneliness and isolation.

Loneliness is far more than just a bad feeling—it harms both individual and societal health. It is associated with a greater risk of cardiovascular disease, dementia, stroke, depression, anxiety, and premature death. The mortality impact of being socially disconnected is similar to that caused by smoking up to 15 cigarettes a day,4 and even greater than that associated with obesity and physical inactivity. And the harmful consequences of a society that lacks social connection can be felt in our schools, workplaces, and civic organizations, where performance, productivity, and engagement are diminished.

Dunking on incels who equate loneliness with a lack of sex and ascribing the “male loneliness epidemic” to being a meme made up by chronically online social media users is a mistake.

Everyone is experiencing loneliness.

Just because women suffer in silence while some men turn to antisocial behavior doesn’t mean that this is a problem that’s fabricated or only affecting men.

If you’re resistant to believing that this is a real problem because the people making noise about it on social media are primarily men then you’re ignoring reality.

Is that an Andrew Tate wojak?

They also want to capture the "lonely man" demographic and make them feel like it's not their fault, engage them and get their clicks/dollars.

"3.3% of men are virgin by age 30"

Cool! I am special

Instead of "having been married" and "having had sex", maybe measure the amount actually spent in relationships and their quality.

If a large portion of men don't have the skills to be in a relationship despite having the skills to find one, then the data showed here in greentext means jack shit.

TIL I'm like in the 10%

Shit, 4 more years and I will be in 10%.