The right wants what's best for their own party and will only complain about something if it hurts their image. The left wants what's best for everyone, even if it hurts their party.

The DNC and RNC, though, are basically the same right-leaning party and don't give a shit about their constituents. Which is why we're in this mess in America in the first place. The DNC won't stand up for what's right when the RNC pulls a BS move because it hurts their own political gains too. We don't actually have a left party in America, so most American ideals are completely unrepresented.

That's why the DNC is fighting against Zohran Mamdani in the New York mayoral election. He's an actual left candidate, not the centrist-right figurehead they wanted on the Democrat ticket (Andrew Cuomo). So when Cuomo lost the primary for that Democrat ticket, he chose to continue running as an independent, to split the vote and ruin Mamdani's chance of winning. Because the DNC would rather have a Republican in office than an actual left candidate.

Which is why we say, "RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES!" There are going to be Democrats AND Republicans on the list. We don't care. Punish them all. Actually drain the swamp. We have no party loyalty because we don't have an honorable party to represent us.

Never ask a trumper why they dont want the Epstein files released,

Big bird why they never got cookie monster any help

Or, a Christian what Jesus was doing with that partially dressed young boy in the garden of gethsemane and why Peter, James and John had to keep watch for him, from a distance.

The right will circle the wagons when one of them violates both rule and moral. The left demands justice regardless.

There is no both sides.

Here's an actual example, or at least one that's close: Richard Stallman.

He's not likely implicated personally, but Marvin Minsky (a pioneer AI researcher at MIT) is, and Stallman said some pretty terrible things in support of him. Stallman was removed as head of the FSF because of it.

Without any evidence of anything beyond saying bad things in support of Minsky, I don't think it needs to go beyond that. But if he were fully implicated, I would 100% still support releasing the Epstein Files.

Oh they will release it after removing Trump and planting his political opponents in it. The fact is anything they release now isn’t to be believed.

Personally, I’m holding out for the long form Epstein list.

What if you’re on it though?

I'd say I would want it even more because I don't want to be supporting pedophiles thinking they are actually cool people to emulate. I already know Trump is a piece of shit.

If Mr Rogers was on it.. I donno. I'd care about that.

That would... Hurt.

I still want them release though.

If Jesus were on the list, who do you think introduced him to Epstein? The pope or a cardinal? Some mega church pastor? Some errant thought in the middle of a prayer?

As an aside, if prayers work like Bruce almighty, god could be advertised to 24/7.

What's hilarious is that (IMO) a lot of people hung out with Epstein because he was a kind of male socialite. He was always throwing parties, he knew all the rich and powerful people, and could introduce anybody to anybody else. He was a human LinkedIn for the top 0.0001%. AFAIK, that's also how he made his money. He introduced people who made deals, and he'd be cut in on a tiny fraction of a big deal.

I'm sure that he kept his pedophelia quiet, and only shared it with people he could either trust, or people he could blackmail if needed. But, that was probably only a tiny fraction of his huge social circle. Most people are not pedophiles, and it stands to reason that just because someone is rich doesn't make them suddenly become attracted to kids. Everybody who wasn't one was probably willfully blind. They needed him for his connections, so they made excuses for him, and didn't look too closely.

So, it's possible that the Epstein Files contain hundreds or even thousands of people. Some are probably pedophiles, but probably not a lot of them.

What I love about this is that he pretty much exclusively hung out with the ultra-rich. So, even though only a fraction of them are probably pedophiles, they're all people who should be the focus of public anger.

For years the rich have successfully made immigrants, gays, non-whites, women, jews, college professors, etc. the targets rather than themselves. Somehow they get Joe Sixpack to get angry that a McDonalds worker is making the same wage as him, and then get angry at that McDonalds worker rather than the owner of his company who's massively underpaying him. Apparently it's impossible to get through to Joe Sixpack and convince him that the rich should be his real target.

Now, thanks to stupid conspiracy theories like the QAnon Adrenochrome BS or the Pizzagate conspiracy theory Joe Sixpack is convinced that the rich and powerful are all child molesters and are kidnapping kids to harvest their blood. And, they're convinced that the Epstein List is a list of people doing those horrible things. Finally they actually have the right target. It's for the wrong reasons, but let's just celebrate that finally they're actually focusing on the rich and powerful.

But if trump is in the list, just keep it secret

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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

But for real.. Everyone and their mother knows that the prick is on there.

Yeah, but we're not in a cult.

See, this is why I lean left. I'm not far left or alt left, I have some right leaning tendencies too, and I'm not gonna get into that because that's neither here nor there, but all told I do lean left. And the reason is, generally speaking people on the left have their morals too (and it's odd that the right says we don't) and if someone on our side, even if we think he's a saint (how people see Keanu Reeves, because he doesn't play villains and they never played Cyberpunk, I guess) or maybe the best chance of beating an alt-right candidate in a high stakes election... we will bring him down, with facts. We hold ours accountable. The right? They say it's fine for them to do bad things but for poor people? Stiff penalties because they gotta appear tough on crime... as long as it's poor, dark skinned, or LGBTQ+ people doing the crime. If it's them and theirs it's fine. Never forget, they nominated and elected a convicted felon, an insurrectionist, a rioter, a traitor... and oh yes, a pedophile. They had plenty of cleaner guys they could have ran but they didn't.

Now, there's a rule in law, or a rule of thumb, I'm not sure if it has a name. It basically says if you destroy or hide evidence, that evidence is whatever we say it is. I don't think it's an actual law, it's more of a philosophy of sorts. So everyone opposed to releasing the Epstein files, we can assume that either they are in them, or someone they owe favors to is, and it's worse than we think. Like, I'm inclined to think maybe Trump fooled around with some 15-16 year old girls who could pass for 18-20. Lot of rich people probably do. Grass green, water wet, news at six, etc. He knows his base doesn't judge him for the stuff we know he's done. So what's he afraid of?

Here's my theory: we all know Trump is in the Epstein files. It's a sure bet. I think that Trump doesn't care about his name being smeared. How much worse could his reputation get now? Nah, I think the GOP has a short list of younger men (guys in their 40s and 50s, say) who could carry the torch for the next 8 years. I don't doubt Trump would try for a third term if he had the health and youth for it. He has neither. I honestly think we need to stop worrying about his third term and start worrying about the two terms his successor is going for. Anyway, I think one or more of these successors are in the files, and they probably messed with some obviously underage and very young looking girls. Like 13 but can pass for 10, young. Underdeveloped, partly malnourished, that kind of thing. And these guys, after another 4 years of Trump, are going to come up and say they're going to fix things. They're going to fight hard for the middle and some of the left, but they're going to be just as bad. And I think Trump is trying to protect these guys more so than himself.

the conservative mind cannot comprehend right from wrong, they only see them vs. us.... they don't give a shit if he fucks kids, destroys their livelihoods, or takes their guns, they only care that he hates us as much as they hate us

Release the Trump/Epstein files

The US as a unit should refuse to pay taxes until the files are released.

If Jesus is on the list, we'll CRUCIFY HIM AGAIN

YOU'RE STANDING ON MY NECK! 🎶

Ignorance only absolves you of moral culpability so long as you are not actively creating that ignorance by preventing the release or creation of any information that might challenge it. The moment you do that you become morally culpable for every single bad thing that you are actively trying not to learn abour.

There are definitely several Mr. Rogers-esque figures in them.

What if Dolly was on the list?

What if the "list" is a right-wing myth as the press reported ages ago?

I don't disclaim it's a useful myth: I like agitating MAGA into a self-destructive frenzy as much as anyone.

I've said it before, I'll say it again: Jesus is 100% on the list. "Suffer the little children to come unto me."

I just KNOW Beyonce and Jay-Z are on that list right next to Diddy.. Illuminati=Epstein list