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[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What if the "list" is a right-wing myth as the press reported ages ago?

I don't disclaim it's a useful myth: I like agitating MAGA into a self-destructive frenzy as much as anyone.

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Did Epstein keep one specific, comprehensive list of his clients? Unclear.

Is there enough information recovered from Epstein's computers to compile a pretty long list of people who provably raped children? Absolutely.

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

That seems an overconfident assertion based on wishful thinking unsupported by reporting.

You know there's a consistent pattern of right-wing child sex trafficking, blood sacrifice delusions derivative of blood libel? An elite cabal (including the deep state, George Soros, Bill Gates, Fauci, Pope Francis, the Dalai Lama, the Rothschilds, the Clintons, Hollywood elites) of Satan-worshipping child molesters that’s been running the world for 6,000 years, Pizzagate, adrenochrome harvesting, Frazzledrip, Wayfair Conspiracy, etc. An Epstein client list is 1 of the less farfetched speculations conjured the same way. Still speculation.

I'm open to the possibility it's a myth as reported before. Wouldn't it be funnier if MAGA imploded itself over an impossible demand?

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Epstein videotaped the child molestation. We have testimony from ~~numerous~~ multiple victims to that effect. Whether or not he has a literal text list of clients is almost immaterial; one can be constructed from other data.

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Epstein videotaped the child molestation.

Then you should be able to cite credible sources on that.

I read about downloaded child pornography & CDs & harddrives that were photographed in a raid and went missing before the FBI could get a warrant to confiscate them. That's not quite what you're claiming, though it inspired similar, distorted claims by conservative commentators

"Reminder that the FBI confiscated the Epstein tapes and has never returned them," conservative commentator and senior editor at Human Events, Jack Posobiec wrote on X, formerly Twitter.

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sarah Ransome

Virginia Roberts

"Numerous" might have been an overstatement, but there are definitely multiple.

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 2 days ago

Multiple is a number, maybe numerous.

I'm seeing claims by people who aren't investigators or prosecutors that videos may have existed before. Even if they existed before, it's unclear they still exist or that authorities have them.

Their claims have some issues.

Sarah Ransome

According to hundreds of pages of documents disclosed on Monday, Ms Ransome said in emails that she had seen sex tapes in Epstein's possession showing figures including Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew and Sir Richard Branson.

However, the New Yorker magazine reported in 2019 that Ms Ransome had admitted fabricating the claim.

But in an interview with ITV's Good Morning Britain on Tuesday, after the documents were released, Ms Ransome said she only walked back her claims because of threats to her family.

Their credibility is questionable. It's possible.
Virginia RobertsRoberts went on in her affidavit on Friday to allege that authorities already hold evidence “that will support what I have been saying about Epstein and his associates”, including the video and photographic material. She said she did not understand why no action had been taken.

“I have asked the FBI to show me the video surveillance and other pictures of me that I believe they have in their possession,” she said. “They said that I would have to go to the prosecutors to get them. But the prosecutors will not share anything with me.”

She also claimed: “There are also many people who could confirm what I am saying. I hope that these people will come forward and tell the truth.”

Why does Roberts believe they exist or that authorities have them? I don't see Roberts claim to have seen them. If the videos existed, could authorities have failed to confiscate them? Could Roberts be wrong?

If authorities secretly had them, I'd be surprised credible sources hadn't confidentially leaked that information to reporters.