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[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 218 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Yep. Drug screen popped for heroin. Happens all the time. You'd think they would have figured out a way around it by now in the screening.

But it's only the poor that have to take drug tests. So there's no incentive to not ruin their lives.

[–] nocturne@piefed.social 103 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Fresh out of high school I got a job working in the same grocery store as my then girlfriend (now wife), i had to take a drug test to finish the hiring process. I stopped at the grocery store to grab the paperwork and as I walked past the bakery they had fresh poppy seed bagels, my absolute favorite. I grabbed one and then went the next morning for my drug test, failed for opiates.

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[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 45 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There is a way around it. Check again after 72h.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago (5 children)

How long does it take for normal opiates to pass through? Because if they're the same it doesn't really indicate that it was from Poppy seeds.

[–] Vorticity@lemmy.world 65 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If a opiate addict went clean for 72 hours for a drug test they would be in very bad shape by the time they get tested again. It would be completely obvious that they are in withdrawal. They would be very anxious, shivering, vomiting, and shitting.

Retesting after 72 hours is a pretty good indicator that someone isn't using so long as you also observe physical symptoms.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Plus failing a drug test is an automatic disqualification from future employment. Nobody is going to give you multiple chances to pass.

[–] UsernameHere@lemy.lol 16 points 1 month ago

I stayed up all night studying for this drug test! You gotta give me a 2nd try!

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[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 130 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Ffs there was a Seinfeld episode on this issue. 30 years later and we have nothing better?!

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 109 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yep. Authorities have basically just refused to admit how unreliable drug tests are, no matter how many times it's proven

It's standard war on drugs tactics... They don't care how many people they hurt, gotta keep that ~slave~ prisoner population up

[–] higgsboson@piefed.social 50 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The drug war is and has always been primarily a class war.

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[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 month ago

There was a MythBusters episode too!

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 80 points 1 month ago (6 children)

My dad had a story similar to this from when he worked at a bank. Someone brought in poppyseed muffins for the office, the same morning that the office got randomly selected for drug tests. The higher-ups were really confused when the entire office tested positive for opiates.

[–] MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world 63 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Someone knew there was a drug test and flooded the office with Poppy so they wouldn't get caught.

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[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Might've been the muffin or it might've been the Fentanyl Friday team building exercise. We'll never know!

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[–] BorgDrone@feddit.nl 76 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Why are they drug testing women during childbirth? What kind of fucked up shit is that?

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 53 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Started to become common during the moral panic around drugs in the 80s and 90s here in the US. I don’t know how it’s legal but this country is very backwards.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 52 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Pointing out that a person has taken an illegal drug at some point is one of the top dehumanization tools of conservatives. It is a very potent catalyst when combined with non-whiteness. It has a rich history going back at least to the nixon days.

[–] dil@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Like half the conservatives ik be sniffing their keys in the bathroom

[–] Zink@programming.dev 24 points 1 month ago

Well sure. The Only Moral Addiction Is My Addiction, so to speak.

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[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They should - but only for medical reasons kept confidential. It's important info for the doctor for the health of the kid. But not the cops.

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Honestly I think it would be helpful to know if the baby might go into withdrawal but the positive test would be more of a flag to do a few rounds of neonatal abstinence scoring at set intervals after birth. I don't see why you'd need to call CPS if the baby doesn't significantly withdraw, since that's the actual harm that would be done to the baby. If their NAS values are negligible obviously either the test was a false positive or mom wasn't doing enough to actually put the baby at risk.

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[–] yucandu@lemmy.world 67 points 1 month ago

When I was a teenager, I found out that some of the packs of poppy seeds at grocery stores had seeds that were shinier and oilier than the other grey/blue/dusty ones. And they sat in clumps, not loose seeds. Turns out there was a lot of opium on those.

Good times were had, for about 2 weeks, followed by ~10 years of bad times.

[–] PotatoLibre@feddit.it 44 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Drug testing all pregnant women sounds so f*** up.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 52 points 1 month ago (2 children)

According to this LA Times article, they weren't testing everyone; they tested this woman because she skipped her prenatal visits. She did that because she lived with people who were at high risk from COVID-19. It also says she provided a urine sample voluntarily, but wasn't told it was for drug testing.

It does seem reasonable to me that if a hospital had good reason to believe a woman was using opioids while pregnant, they would get child protective services involved. It does not seem to me that missing some appointments with as good an explanation as she gave here should be grounds to perform a drug test without the patient's consent. Child protective services also shouldn't be relying on a test with such poor specificity.

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The problem is a shitty adjudication process with legal stakes that demand a more formal, judicial process. They blindside the accused without informed opportunity to competently defend themselves, review evidence, contest claims. The accused needs to understand the consequences at play & know when they'll need a competent advocate or lawyer before it's too late.

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There have even been cases where they have given women pain meds before the test, then called CPS when she tested positive for those same pain meds.

[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Anything to punish pregnant women.

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[–] lunarul@lemmy.world 40 points 1 month ago

Just got a box of poppy seed almond muffins from Costco. Guess my whole family, kids included, would test positive for both heroin and cyanide.

[–] dellish@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago

America's fixation on drugs is beyond psychotic. God forbid someone actually enjoys their shitty life a little bit. When does congress get its random drug tests? Oh, that's right, the rules don't apply there...

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago (12 children)

Pregnant people don't have the same rights as everybody else and it's not just abortion. Reactionaries need to control what they don't understand and absurdity is inevitable outcome.

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[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why are they drug testing in the first place? Wtf?

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (23 children)

Because if a pregnant woman is on something chemically addictive, the baby is too, and that’s important to know when delivering a baby.

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[–] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Anyone who listened to the 50 minute podcast can tell us whether she fought the decision and what the outcome was? Written article had no closure. Must have closure!

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[–] Hozerkiller@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Absolutely horrible but they should absolutely warn people about foods that can make them false positive before any drug tests.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 67 points 1 month ago

Or maybe we should stop drug testing people and exit the fascist fucking police state.

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

No, the contrary: everyone should increase false positives to render these tests worthless & make laughingstocks of contemptible processes depending on them.

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[–] Donebrach@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

This is literally a bit in Seinfeld, except its a bagel and Elaine doesn’t get to go on her work trip. Guess our collective memory is very very very short.

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