Technology

On on hand, yes. On the other...imagine frustration of management of companies making and selling AI services. This is such a sweet thing to imagine.

You're not wrong.

nothing can be improved while capitalism or authority exist; all improvement will be seized and used to oppress.

Especially since the solution I cooked up for my site works just fine and took a lot less work. This is simply to identify the incoming requests from these damn bots -- which is not difficult, since they ignore all directives and sanity and try to slam your site with like 200+ requests per second, that makes 'em easy to spot -- and simply IP ban them. This is considerably simpler, and doesn't require an entire nuclear plant powered AI to combat the opposition's nuclear plant powered AI.

In fact, anybody who doesn't exhibit a sane crawl rate gets blocked from my site automatically. For a while, most of them were coming from Russian IP address zones for some reason. These days Amazon is the worst offender, I guess their Rufus AI or whatever the fuck it is tries to pester other retail sites to "learn" about products rather than sticking to its own domain.

Fuck 'em. Route those motherfuckers right to /dev/null.

Next step is an AI that detects AI labyrinth.

It gets trained on labyrinths generated by another AI.

So you have an AI generating labyrinths to train an AI to detect labyrinths which are generated by another AI so that your original AI crawler doesn't get lost.

It's gonna be AI all the way down.

There is also the corpo verified id route. In order to avoid the onslaught of AI bots and all that comes with them you'll need to sacrifice freedom, anonymity, and privacy like a good little peasant to prove you aren't a bot.. and so will everyone else. You'll likely be forced to deal with whatever AI bots are forced upon you while within the walls but better an enemy you know I guess?

Bitcoin?

I think the negativity is around the unfortunate fact that solutions like this shouldn't be necessary.

The energy cost of inference is overstated. Small models, or “sparse” models like Deepseek are not expensive to run. Training is a one-time cost that still pales in comparison to, like, making aluminum.

Doubly so once inference goes more on-device.

Basically, only Altman and his tech bro acolytes want AI to be cost prohibitive so he can have a monopoly. Also, he’s full of shit, and everyone in the industry knows it.

AI as it’s implemented has plenty of enshittification, but the energy cost is kinda a red herring.

Because you are coming from the perspective of a reasonable person

These people are billionaires who expect to get everything for free. Rules are for the plebs, just take it already

Gotta say "AI Labyrinth" sounds almost as cool.

The article says it's not poisoning the AI data, only providing valid facts. The scraper still gets content, just not the content it was aiming for.

E:

It is important to us that we don’t generate inaccurate content that contributes to the spread of misinformation on the Internet, so the content we generate is real and related to scientific facts, just not relevant or proprietary to the site being crawled.

If you're dumb enough and care little enough about the truth, I'm not really going to try coming at you with rationality and sense. I'm down to do an accelerationism here. fuck it. burn it down.

remember; these companies all run at a loss. if we can hold them off for a while, they'll stop getting so much investment.

In terms of Lemmy instances, if your instance is behind cloudflare and you turn on AI protection, federation breaks. So their tools are not very helpful for fighting the AI scraping.