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Vivian Jenna Wilson, Elon Musk’s daughter, accused her father of giving a “definitely Nazi salute” at two rallies in January, calling his actions “fucking cringe.”

In an interview with Teen Vogue, she criticized Musk’s involvement in the Trump administration and advocated for trans rights, emphasizing the importance of gender-affirming care for minors.

Wilson, who transitioned as a teen, described Musk as cold and absent, and revealed she no longer associates with him or his family.

She also expressed fear over anti-trans legislation under Trump’s administration.

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[–] scytale@lemm.ee 290 points 4 days ago (14 children)

It’s mindblowing how anyone still genuinely thinks what he did was anything but.

[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 133 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (9 children)

"iT wAs A rOmAn sALuTe" oh you mean the "salute" that appears in exactly one painting from the 1700s, long after the Roman empire had fallen?

There are videos of people being asked to recreate it, and while most refuse to do it (because of the implication), some add their own flourish to make it look like something else. That should tell you everything you need to know.

[–] Arbiter@lemmy.world 64 points 4 days ago (2 children)

And was the direct inspiration for the Nazi salute.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 69 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Indirect inspiration. Hitler got it from Mussolini, who got it from Gabriele d’Annunzio, who got it from a Broadway production of Ben-Hur, which got it from the US Pledge of Allegiance, which got it from the painting.

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[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 43 points 4 days ago (8 children)

My coworker is convinced it was just 'my heart to you!' and to him is why he no longer trusts the news. It's crazy to watch educated people get sucked into the alt right misinformation hole.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 24 points 4 days ago

Show them this and ask again. It's probably not going to change their answer, but there will be a moment of confusion that passes behind their eyes as they try to reconcile reality with their beliefs.

https://imgur.com/a/musk-nazi-musk-ag0DOJN

[–] drhodl@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago

Your coworker is a nazi who hasn't come out yet.

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[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago

Having been on several bar trivia teams, I can say that at least 80% of Americans know virtually nothing about history. I could imagine someone with only a vague familiarity with a Nazi salute just assuming there's no way a fortune 500 CEO would actually do one, not recognizing how spot on of a Hitler impression that was.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 95 points 4 days ago

Yeah, we know.

Everyone that isn't braindead or a pathetic shill knows.

[–] lichtmetzger@discuss.tchncs.de 74 points 4 days ago (2 children)

TV: Do you ever feel scared? He's the richest man in the world.

VW: He's a pathetic man-child. Why would I feel scared of him? Ohhh, he has so much power. Nah, nah, nah. I don't give a fk. Why should I be scared of this man? Because he's rich? Oh, no, I'm trembling. Ooh, shivering in my boots here. I don't give a fk how much money anyone has. I don't. I really don't. He owns Twitter. Okay. Congratulations.

Absolutely based. The pathetic man-child was probably fuming when reading those lines. :)

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 63 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

To be honest, you'd have to be very stupid to belive otherwise.
I suspect 90% of the people who want to give him the benefit of "doubt" when there actually is none, is very well aware of what he did.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

They are.

Everyone knows it was not one, but two, Nazi salutes.

The people who won't accept it are either trying to cover for their team, or are too full of pride to admit they support Nazis, or both.

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[–] FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world 60 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (6 children)

His arm says "Nazi", but his actions? His actions say "Super Nazi".

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[–] Nunar@lemmy.world 52 points 4 days ago (11 children)

It definitely was. He's apartheid nepo baby. Autistic or not, he's racist and a terrible asshole. Also a nazi.

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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 49 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Well thats one member of the Musk family I can understand and who seems like a decent human being.

Hope she manages to get away from that cringe fucker as soon as possible.

[–] PixelPinecone@lemmy.today 47 points 4 days ago (8 children)

The article literally said she doesn’t associate with him or his family. Seems like she’s away from him…

But damn… I can’t imagine what it would be like to be trans and have your dad as the most prominent and powerful Nazi in the world, spearheading a sham federal org called DOGE that is basically eliminating all reference to people like you and firing people like you in the most powerful country in the world.

So many layers to that experience, I imagine.

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[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 47 points 4 days ago (3 children)

a comment on reddit, said vivian had less gender affirming care than elon musk.

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[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 44 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Breaking: Elon Musk's daughter has eyes and a working brain.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago

True, but shed also particularly able to speak on his mens rea. She's spoken openly about how even when she was young he was bigoted and cruel. So while many of us may have witnessed a man get radicalized by the right wing as he lost his damn mind which might lead some to think it was him being edgy or something, she's able to say that no, he in his private life as a man who was merely rich was a massive shit stain.

[–] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 43 points 4 days ago

My eyes told me the same thing.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 41 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Wilson, who transitioned as a teen, described Musk as cold and absent, and revealed she no longer associates with him or his family.

So he's a sociopath. That checks out

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 33 points 4 days ago (4 children)

He literally just said "empathy is weakness" the other day, I think it's pretty clear he's got some serious personality disorder. Narcissism and sociopathy both seem to fit him pretty well but I'm just a blue-collar guy.

Idk one way or another he's a piece of shit and I firmly believe one of the most evil people kicking, if anyone can be said to be evil, it's him.

And I've played a LOT of evil in DnD over the years. Both sides of the screen. I feel like I've got a pretty good grasp of the concept. If he was just a character in literature I'd go "damn, that's a good villain", but he is, sadly, alive and real.

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago

Evil is the absence of empathy, so by his own admission he is absolutely evil.

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[–] Gork@lemm.ee 39 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I saw a gif earlier that I can't find. It has Elon's seig heil salute that is perfectly timed to a group of Neo-Nazis executing the same salute. They were absolutely identical.

Does anyone know where to find it?

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

For some reason, lemmy absolutely will not allow me to upload that one gif. Here's some alternatives:

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[–] gigglybastard@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago (4 children)

who the fuck still thinks it wasn't ...

[–] ChexMax@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago (2 children)

All Republicans. My idiot sister. She's like "I watched it" as if that's proof it wasn't? If the white superiority groups are applauding your actions, you're in the wrong. That quieted her down but it didn't change her mind. She thinks we're all over reacting.

[–] FearMeAndDecay@literature.cafe 20 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I will say, it’s not all republicans. And I mean this in a “there’s still the slightest sliver of hope” kind of way, bc my church is hella republican leaning, with lots of old people, and they’re all fucking pissed at Trump and Elon. Like they’re calling him King Trump (mockingly) and a lot of them have complained about Elon doing the hitler salute. And yes, they’re the idiots that voted for him and are now complaining that he’s doing exactly what he said he’d do but this is our best time to try to push them back towards “normal” republicans rather than the openly fascist ones

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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

My brother. He thinks it was just a normal heartwarming gesture and people are just finding reasons to hate on him. I had a... Pretty bad argument with him over it.

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[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 26 points 4 days ago

Western media and political discourse: "Best I can do is 1930s Germany-adjacent arm gesture"

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago

Technically, it was two.

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Everyone who isn't a fascist or gaslit by wealthy nepo babies agrees

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago (2 children)

My favorite explanation for this is that he's autistic. It never fucking ends with these people, lol

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[–] El_Azulito@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (10 children)

In the past two months, while some of y’all motherfuckers have been busy arguing over whether it was a Nazi salute or not, this guy and his orange fucko have been dismantling the Constitution in real time. But sure—carry on. This debate is clearly way more important.

Goddamnit.

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 17 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Elon Musk literally helped re-legalize segregation in Federal Contracts, if he had the power he'd ban MLK's "I Have A Dream" speech and gate off Harlem from the rest of New York.

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (9 children)

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[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't see turning into a goddamn Nazi on that list

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[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago

Elon Musk's daughter has functioning eyeballs.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

Is it because she has working eyes? That's really all you need to come to this conclusion.

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