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[–] aeppelcyning@lemmy.ca 45 points 23 hours ago (6 children)

Carney needs to grow a pair. I've had enough of him not saying anything. We voted for elbows up, not subservience. I'm still not clear what we got for the DST removal.

[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 6 points 22 hours ago (6 children)

I’m still not clear what we got for the DST removal.

The U.S. temporarily ended trade talks in late June over Canada’s digital services tax, but the federal government moved to drop the tax just days later and negotiations resumed.

[–] patatas@sh.itjust.works 31 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, and apparently they include 35% tariffs across the board now. So the question remains, what did we get for dropping the DST?

[–] karlhungus@lemmy.ca 13 points 22 hours ago

We got jack and shit, and jack left town (ref).

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[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

I'm also an NDP voter that voted LPC over CPC. I knew we wouldn't get Value(s) Carney, but I do believe that if anyone is going to shift capitalism in a better direction it would be him.

As a former bouncer I completely disagree that silence is a sign of weakness or subservience. That's just good tact. Never argue with an idiot, they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Elbows Up doesn't mean you should draw a penalty. You're supposed to hit them hard and get away with it.

As far as the DST. I find it interesting that a tax we never collected is being framed as a loss we deserve compensation for.

A month ago I thought bills C-2 & C-5 were overreach, and their lack of oversight definitely is... I wrote several letters to that effect. But given the continuation of Trumps annexation rhetoric, I now recognize those bills were designed for a political environment that is still burgeoning.

Based on Trumps usage of ICE I believe it's inevitable that the USA will use domestic crossings to affect some form of hybrid war against Canada. Russia & China will certainly occupy northern Canada if we don't rapidly expand our national infrastructure.

These threats, I believe, do justify deprioritizing environmental concerns, to a degree.

I think the silver lining is that Carney's energy expansion in to oil/gas is not mutually exclusive with expanding renewable energy.

I also sold mortgages for a short time and saw the industry change more in 24 months than 24 years. I agree that the least harmful economic solution to housing is to freeze housing prices where they are until cost of living and supply normalize. The alternative of housing prices drop would have a net negative effect. The CMHC in 2014 & 15 made major changes to reduce Canadian borrowing power to avoid a post mortgage crisis of mass defaults like what we saw in the USA.

I think the world is too volatile right now to expect concrete plans that aren't heavily hedged. Carney is playing the game correctly by holding Canada's cards close and not telling his bluffs.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

holding Canada's cards close and not telling his bluffs.

That's what the "just tell us what you're doing in the negotiations" crowd seems to miss.

It would be colossally stupid to put out a press release that tells the other players what cards you're holding, and what your planned strategy is.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

Never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake.

  • Sun Tzu

Those people also don't appreciate that in the context of Trumps unpredictability no publicly made plans would remain unchanged.

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[–] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 37 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Bring it, bitch.

I will never visit the us again. i cancelled netflix, prime, apple music. i use crave, cbc gem, and qobuz now. i installed ubuntu on my old surface pro and it works beautifully. switched to libre office. my next phone will be a fairphone.

when i go to the grocery store, if an item i want is a product of the usa, i eat something else.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 4 points 12 hours ago

I also cancelled and use the same services! Qobuz is pretty good, it has a lot of room to improve but it’s keeping me more up to date with music than Apple was.

I got Sync.com (Canadian) instead of iCloud (though iCloud is not fully replaceable). My backup server is in the EU because I use custom borg scripts, but there’s also eazyBackup in Canada.

I own my own domain for email, and I bought my wife one too so she can get off of Gmail.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 3 points 19 hours ago

Legend. I had cancelled all that but then Telus came in and offered it for free. So technically I have it, but I'm not really paying for it.

[–] fourish@lemmy.world 29 points 21 hours ago

We’re done with the US. let them Tax themselves into oblivion. We have closer friends now to trade with.

[–] Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world 28 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

bring back DST and 3X it, fuck em.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 2 points 12 hours ago

Add a “reciprocal” US services tax on top.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 27 points 22 hours ago

Buy Canadian 💪🍁

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 19 points 22 hours ago

Trump is named in the Epstein files.

Trump cut NOAA and FEMA funding before flash flooding killed over 200 people in Texas including two dozen Christian girls.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 19 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 13 points 21 hours ago

Cool, calm reciprocity. They Tarrif us, we Tarrif them where it hurts in equal measure.

For everything else, there are better trade partners.

[–] DetectiveNo64@lemmy.ca 19 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Someone needs to take out this pedophile president.

[–] KMAMURI@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago

Don't forget, multiple time felon.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 18 points 19 hours ago

"You will never be disappointed with the United States of America."

We're fucking disappointed. Every fucking year of this relationshit. You are an utter disappointment in nearly every way.

[–] KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca 17 points 23 hours ago

Sure Donnie, now please go take your meds.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 15 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Meh. He'll change his mind at least 15 more times before Aug 1st.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Every 2 weeks, methinks...

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 19 hours ago

2 weeks Trumpy time is either very short or never happens.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 13 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Carney can't decide if he wants elbows up or not. In fact, he flipflops so much, he looks like hes doing the chicken dance.

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 12 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (3 children)

No I think he knows exactly what he's doing and it has very little to do with anything Trump does, despite what he or anyone else says.

He's handing our money to corporations and butt fucking us in a much quieter way than PP would have, but he seems to be doing it very intentionally.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

So fucken true!! Really disappointed in Carney so far. He’s not standing up to Trump, doing everything in secret, no updates. Paying American companies for military equipment (night vision), not cancelling the fighter jets order, begging the abuser to trade with us while we’re giving shit up left right and centre. Fuck this!! But PP and cons would not be better.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

doing everything in secret, no updates.

Do you think it would be beneficial for him to put out a press release saying what aces he has up his sleeve, what the plan is to counter Trump's next move, or any other parts of the negotiations?

Do you think the Americans won't love to learn those things?

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 1 points 35 minutes ago

He should be making weekly statements to Canadians, I thought we were in an emergency or crisis and Carney get elected then clams TF up. Could be vague but he should be communicating with Canada and giving us a status update. Actually Carney should just fucking walk away.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 4 points 17 hours ago

I suppose you're right. It's irresponsible to let him plead stupidity for fleecing us, when it's all very calculated.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

He's a banker. He's on capitalism's side, not the people's.

[–] teppa@piefed.ca 0 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

His literally said housing prices shouldn't fall, even though he have a world leading housing bubble that threatens to bring down our entire economy. This level of mismanagement is how communist countries are created.

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

What are some examples? The DST is postponed as trade leverage which is still ongoing. I haven't seen him flop flop on anything yet, and he hasn't been PM for long enough to see how anything had played out. He seems very calculated and has been getting great results so far within Canada and internationally.

[–] shittydwarf@sh.itjust.works 11 points 22 hours ago
[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 9 points 20 hours ago

Oh, no! Empty threats. What will the world do.

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 9 points 9 hours ago

So are we gonna get a TACO pool going... everyone bet which day Trump caves and winner takes all.

[–] KMAMURI@lemmy.world 8 points 19 hours ago

giv'er buddy, we don't want your shit or your business.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 8 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

More forest fire smoke down south then.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 6 points 19 hours ago

We need some fans on the border to blow it towards the US. Smoke turbines.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 6 points 8 hours ago

Less trade with the US the better

Hopefully he actually follows through

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 5 points 19 hours ago
[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Our leaderships tried appeasement and appeal to "fortress Can-Am". Maybe they are all paid/programmed to be loyal CIA colonists, and had to at least try keeping the same political capital that brought them to leadership. Fine, we are open to joining EU in context of CIA colonies and NATO subservience, with absurd 5% of GDP spent primarily on US weapons, but that EU proposition must change.

Yes, Canada, EU, and Asian colonies should coordinate on US war against them. It has to be in the context of an alliance with China against the US, or the serious threat of that as a negotiation stance, and full detente with China until negotiations are successful. Removing US from NATO, Council of Americas, and NORAD or charging them significant rent for any bases/presence/services. We must end the US project of a proxy war on Russia, and the delusional fear manufacturing that Russia is a bigger threat than the US, that we only make true through US programed suicidal hatred towards Russia. Joining EU for purposes of distracting population that a war on Russia is more important than economic collapse, just because political power can be rallied behind instead of rejected as cause of collapse, it a bad reason to join EU.

Carney's "The special relationship with US is over" has to be followed up with different behaviour than begging to be a more subservient colony. Maybe this is the final wakeup call? If not, just more abuse to follow.