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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 68 points 1 day ago (33 children)

Index funds. Avoid individual stocks. Don’t try to time the market, in or out. DCA. Don’t touch the money. Don’t touch the money. Don’t touch the money.

Pretty much all you need to know right there - assuming the market continues in some fashion we’re accustomed to.

[–] AreaKode@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You'll think this dude is crazy when you are down $200 after your first year. But check again in 10 years when it has doubled in value. Just pretend the money doesn't exist.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 14 hours ago

And the most important advice is to leave the money the fuck alone.

I got lucky in that I started having enough money to invest after the 2008 crash. Those years had crazy good gains. The real test comes when the market crashes 30% in a few days. Can you stick to the plan? That happened in 2020 when lockdowns started, and if you stuck to the plan, you still did very, very well that year.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 17 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I’ve kind of thrown in a bit of favoritism towards Euro companies and responsible development.

I don’t think I’m going to make bank on that. I just…don’t want to be financially invested in my own country right now.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago

There’s no reason you can’t do both. This country had proven time and a gain it will put rich people first, the rich get rich because investments and holdings in stocks, so taking advantage of the shitty situation is fair game.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

Avoid individual stocks.

If you're a new retail investor, sure. Putting all your chips on the S&P is probably the safest bet. But these indexes are, themselves, often overweighted by the MAG7 anyway. So you're still heavily exposed to certain sectors and even individual firms. Tesla, for instance, is explicitly 3% of the NASDAQ composite. And because of the way it is interconnected with NVIDIA and Toyota and a few other large cap companies, a sudden downturn in Tesla value can drag down the rest of the index quickly.

Don’t try to time the market, in or out. DCA. Don’t touch the money.

That's fine from a very rudimentary savings strategy. But as you learn more about individual equities, you'll see opportunities. Palantir is a great example. It was trading at $10/share a year ago, despite Thiel having a direct line to national security spending budgets and a very friendly relationship with both Trump and Harris. Severely undervalued in the security sector in a way that a simple S&P or NASDAQ investment can't take advantage of. Meanwhile, domestic natural gas is severely hindered by the US trade relations with China - which is the fastest growing market for petrochemicals. Simply having a chunk of the DOW won't yield growth consistent with specific areas of the international market.

Watch P/E ratios. Watch EBITDA. Watch what the economy is doing, generally speaking. Fuck day-trading and options plays. But you can absolutely find opportunities in the market long term with a conservative buy-and-hold strategy, if you can pick out equities that are undervalued and positioned for future growth.

Solar is a great growth sector atm, as energy prices rise and O&G supply chains become overexposed to international conflicts. Bank stocks are enjoying a new wave of deregulation that promise high growth potential. Meanwhile, certain sectors in the MIC are stumbling - Boeing and Raytheon, for instance - because they can't actually produce units to meet global demand for killing machines. There's an arbitrage opportunity in smaller competitive startup firms - particularly in drone and electronic warfare.

If you're serious about investing, it's worth asking the question "Is Intel in a position to compete with TMSC?" rather than just dumping all your money into an index.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 12 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

If you’re serious about investing, it’s worth asking the question “Is Intel in a position to compete with TMSC?” rather than just dumping all your money into an index.

Unless you work in this sector and have detailed knowledge, youd be delusional to believe to be able to answer that question better than "the market" in general.

Also i'd say Palantir isnt as much of a secret tip but rather capitalizing on wanting to live under Fascism. If you dont want to live unser Fascism you should wish for Palantir to burn to the ground. This directly contradicts pumping money into them.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

The scary thing is how much the stock market resembles pyramid schemes. Even if we are never going to eat our ice cream out of hats, if everyone believes we will, then ICRHAT stock will go through the roof and many of those investors are rewarded for their delusion.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago

I didn’t write this comment for investing at your level. This is investing for people who want to have a retirement and aren’t interested in stock investing as a job, because to correctly monitor markets and companies and successfully pick winners requires education and a time investment. I’ve done my fair share of picking winners out of companies that become movers, but I don’t have the risk tolerance for that anymore and this forum isn’t the place to teach people all of that. Because something works and requires minimum effort doesn’t make it rudimentary, that’s completely unfair, derogatory, and insinuates people should try more risky strategies. You completely missed the audience I wrote the comment for. Anyone at your skill and risk level doesn’t need this advice. The equivalent of me suggesting one buy a reliable Honda and here you jump in suggesting a Maserati. Not the same crowd.

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[–] ipitco@lemmybefree.net 26 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

People being publicly religious will always cringe me, just like people believing in astrology and posting about it

[–] oppy1984@lemdro.id 11 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

As an Aquarius I agree with your view on public displays of religion, but I fear for your chakra on the second viewpoint.

/s

[–] dick_fineman@discuss.online 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

As an indigo child, who has mastered their internal chi and is a 9th-level chakra-warrior, I disagree. Do you even trataka, bro?

[–] oppy1984@lemdro.id 1 points 52 minutes ago

No need to trataka when you've got your chakra.

[–] ipitco@lemmybefree.net 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Unrelated but your instance is sexy

[–] oppy1984@lemdro.id 1 points 53 minutes ago

Thanks, I needed a home after lemm.ee shut down and this instance was kind enough to accept me. It's tech focused which I like, so I was happy to be accepted.

[–] xeekei@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Wow, an Aquarius! Those are rare!

[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's great, just learn how to use options.

[–] hark@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I use the option to not participate.

[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 5 points 22 hours ago

Certainly an option, but not the most profitable.

[–] anus@lemmy.world 11 points 21 hours ago

Worst advice possible for new investors

[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Sounds more like speculating than investing.

[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

All investing is speculation.

[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Only by certain definitions. Regardless, not all speculation is investing.

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