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At this point the Trump admin is just trying to find the best way to back down without looking weak. They don't really have a plan to do so, they're just hoping some other shit storm takes center stage.
In the case of Australia, our government decided that it's not worth trying to secure a deal for a number of reasons:
- the whole world is in the same situation, and our tariffs are less than others, so others can do the heavy lifting
- we're not really adversely effected. We don't sell heaps of things to the US and they need to keep buying the stuff that we do sell.
- you can't really make a deal with someone who will discard the deal as soon as it becomes beneficial to do so.
- whatever concessions we might offer are better used in other negotiations.
- China is presently wooing us and we're more desirable since we've curtailed our long standing romance with the US.
The rubric is going to be similar for other countries.
If nobody bends over for Trump he will end up fucking himself.
Yes, but don't count on it, countries are stupid and selfish.
Yeah but, a few or even a bunch of other countries "doing deals" won't really change the calculus for us. It would really take most countries really grovelling to change the dynamic.
Let's not forget, the status quo pre-Trump was the best everyone could achieve for everyone involved.
Everyone hates capitalism and that's fine, there are many worthy criticisms but one benefit is it's ability to find the most profitable balance (for those with the capital). Arbitrary rules (tariffs) are always going to be a net loss.
What I mean is, there's not much incentive for anyone to make a deal because the situation will always be worse for them than it was pre-Trump.
The rest of the world has all the cards... Shit, they got the whole deck at this point.
The rest of the world is playing Hold ‘Em, and I suspect this is what trump is actually playing:
Don't be crazy. That's way to advanced.
I suspect that the concept of "sorry" is quite literally too complicated for him.
Like really, does anyone think Donald Trump has ever once apologized with any amount of honesty? That arrogant pile of pride and nonsense could not possibly have experienced a single moment of honest self-reflection.
One of the prime lessons taught by his mentor Roy Cohn was NEVER admit defeat, and NEVER apologize. Both things signal a loss, and you should always be the Winner.
He can't even say the name of that game.
Has trump said thank you once??
That's how the world should be treating us. Fuck us.
It's TACO Tuesday every day.
I bet the 9 countries that have made a deal, wish they hadn't.
The world has moved on .... and they're all just letting the Taco Tot to play by himself in his play pen and let America deal with him.
Hey America! ... have fun baby sitting
I’m amazed by the number of “very serious people” I’ve met in the corporate finance world who think this man is not an idiot. It’s like a movie where aliens take over people’s bodies and I’m starting to identify them one by one. I’m talking about well educated people. It has really taken me aback.
Ideology will always trump education. That's just how human brains work.
It was Taco Wednesday after all.
Trump posted on Truth Social, "As per letters sent to various countries yesterday, in addition to letters that will be sent today, tomorrow, and for the next short period of time, TARIFFS WILL START BEING PAID ON AUGUST 1, 2025. There has been no change to this date, and there will be no change. In other words, all money will be due and payable starting AUGUST 1, 2025 - No extensions will be granted. Thank you for your attention to this matter!"
Someone needs to take his nap
Art of the deal is actually making the deal, not sealing the deal. And he's made a lot of deals! None of them good, most of them never sealed!
Art of the deal! 🫲🍊🫱
Do it, drive that damn dollar down. I've got almost all of my holdings offshore by now.
Cue trump threatening the rest of the world with nukes because his feelings are hurt