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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 124 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I have a Traeger and saved $200 because it was the model without WiFi.

I made a delicious turkey breast on Independence Day

[–] derg@lemmy.world 109 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Jokes on you when they invent a new kind of meat your grill can’t cook

[–] rem26_art@fedia.io 60 points 23 hours ago (5 children)

DRM Ribs. The Salmonella will not die until you pay for Traeger's $19 a month subscription

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 27 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Please eat verification Sausage.

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 11 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

It can do bread and the best tasting broccoli and Brussels sprouts you’ve ever had

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[–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 12 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Are you live from your backyard where you're smoking meats?

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[–] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 97 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

I will never own a grill that has to connect to wifi. In fact, I actively avoid any appliance that adds unnecessary IOT functionality.

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 39 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

That was me until HomeAssistant and ESPHome

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Oh shit, I didn't know about ESPhome. There goes my free time!

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[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 21 hours ago

At least with ESPHome and other local-only devices they only update when you actually tell them to update.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 22 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

I know, right? Why send my BBQ data to the cloud when I can just cook with a handful of GPUs, locally? To start the grill you just ask the animated waifu to dance and sing a random, AI-generated song that matches your taste in music. Then the fans spin up and send scrumptious GPU heat into the grill, cooking up a delicious hallucination where your animated waifu sings, "That looks yummy! Yummy yummy yummy! Hai hai hai!"

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[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 14 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

We're starting to add some IoT stuff (mostly sockets and leak sensors for the basement brewery) but it had to wait until i'd built a beefier firewall and the HA server. 'Cos that shit is not leaving the house

[–] AnitaAmandaHuginskis@lemmy.world 55 points 8 hours ago (6 children)

I'm an IT nerd but they could not pay me to buy a grill that requires software updates. What a bunch of nonsense.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 13 points 6 hours ago

Pay me? Fuck yes, I'll rip that crap out and replace it with a couple of relays or maybe get fancy and arduino -> home assistant.

I'm betting that someone pay a LOT extra to get that garbage though.

[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

Sending a temp updates to your phone so you don't have to be standing near it the whole time is a nice feature.

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[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 10 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I will never need a wifi connected kitchen appliance. A grill fits that category. My grill is a disposable item I buy one every four or five years.

None of my go to devices are internet connected. Not my TV screens. Not my toothbrush. My daily driver is a 2009 Toyota. Its great. No screens and easy to fix.

[–] mndckr@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 7 hours ago (6 children)

Just out of curiosity... What are you doing to your grill that you need a new one every few years? Mine is prob. 10 years old and still no reason in sight to replace it.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 14 points 6 hours ago

They shoot at it when the food is subpar.

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[–] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago (9 children)

It's a smoker with wireless controls

Instead of having to keep checking on it for several hours, an app on your phone will show the temperature and allow temperature adjustments online

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 84 points 1 day ago (12 children)

ok but why aren't you outside with a beer..pretty sure that's a part of the meat smokers law

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 27 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Some people also think the point of fishing is to catch fish and not to chill out by the bay with some light beers.

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[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (7 children)

You can also just get a normal smoker and a wireless thermometer that works with RF, which has a range of like 700-1000ft, and while it has some theoretical security flaws it results in a situation that is infinitely more secure than a WiFi/app situation. Even if someone bothered to sniff the rf traffic what are they going to do, see the temperature of your brisket? Oh no

Additionally this way the smoker is basically invincible because it’s not digital and as long as you don’t let it rust out it will last forever. If you somehow break the thermometer it’s like $30 to replace but I guarantee you can find models that are somewhat repairable and have user replaceable batteries, which guarantee this thing doesn’t

[–] adubya@feddit.online 27 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Just waiting for the day an evil hacker leaks someone's smoker data to the neighborhood, exposing they cranked the smoker to 375° when they bragged about their brisket cooking 225° the whole time.

[–] quantumcrop@lemmy.today 15 points 23 hours ago

That sounds like the plot to an American Dad episode.

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[–] cobysev@lemmy.world 41 points 19 hours ago (6 children)

I guarantee this update didn't drop on Thanksgiving. Photo OP probably hasn't turned it on since their last BBQ months ago and is just noticing - on Thanksgiving - that an update pushed a while ago that they now need to install to get started.

Pro tip: Start up your electronics a day or two in advance of events, so you can pre-patch anything that needs it.

Source: Former IT guy here, who had to ensure that updates ran at the most convenient times possible for thousands of users. "Patching Tuesday" is an unofficial but well recognized "holiday" for IT folks. It's not first thing Monday morning, which could throw off the workflow for the week, but it also gives the max amount of time to resolve any issues that patching might cause, so we (hopefully) don't have to work through the weekend.

Pay attention to when your stuff requires patches. A lot of the time, it'll pop up on Tuesdays.

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

Source: Former IT guy here, who had to ensure that updates ran at the most convenient times possible for thousands of users.

I used to work at a theater owned by a city. So we used the city’s IT department, and their network. During COVID, live-streaming took off. The city wanted us to install a streaming video package. After a month or two of installing a full video system, we finally get around to testing the stream. Boot up AWS, and it runs fine. We’re streaming in full 4K. Great!

So the show rolls around. It’s Saturday, 7:30pm start time. We start the show… And the stream instantly shits the bed. Like we go from full gigabit upload speed, to less than a single megabit. We’re lucky to get 56kbps speeds. We’re getting one or two frames per second if we’re lucky.

Sunday, we test the stream ahead of time, and it works flawlessly. Show starts, and the upload speed drops to fucking dial up.

Monday morning rolls around, and IT strolls in to check their tickets. Sees a hundred from us, and gives us a call. They run a test on their end. No issues. They run a test on AWS. No issues. They run a test on the fiber backbone between the theater and city hall. No issues. They call the ISP. ISP said they didn’t have any issues over the weekend. IT shrugs, and marks the tickets as solved.

Next weekend, same thing. We’re wondering if IT is automatically throttling us, or if we have a malicious user on the network. We’re asking about QoS, or maybe automatic port control kicking in when the stream starts. Monday rolls around, and IT marks it as solved again.

Third weekend, same thing. This time, the city manager’s office is getting calls from angry patrons who paid for streaming and can’t watch their streams. Monday morning, IT rolls up. They run some more tests, and still can’t find anything wrong. They swear up and down that it’s nothing on their end, and it must be something on ours.

After four months of this back and forth, IT finally admits that they have all of their maintenance tasks to run at 7:30 over the weekend. Every single computer, server, and fucking toaster connected to the city network begins their updates at exactly 7:30. Thousands of city devices, all singularly focused on devouring our upload speeds. Servers run off-site backups. Those backups consume all of the upload speeds for the entire city network. IT refuses to change the time, because “this is what works for us. It’s after city hall closes, so we don’t have any users who are affected. It hasn’t been a problem in the past.”

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 30 points 19 hours ago

pro tip

I get it. I hate it, but I get it.

another pro tip from someone else in IT: see that appliance with the digital screen? fuck it. don't get it. get the old shitty one that's $800 less that doesn't have WiFi or non-tactile buttons. you know what doesn't need firmware updates? a charcoal Weber grill.

[–] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 27 points 17 hours ago (7 children)

Pro tip: don't buy a fucking BBQ that connects to the Internet.

No appliances in general while we're at it

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[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Pro tip; use electronics that are stable and user focused.

Good shout on patch tues tho.

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[–] tnarg42@lemmy.world 38 points 21 hours ago

...The sort of grill I will never buy.

[–] ChiefPulaski@startrek.website 38 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

when you buy a wifi-grill you kind of missed the point of grilling.

[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 17 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (7 children)

It's great for smoking though. I've done it the old fashioned way of staying up all night to feed wood into the smoker and I'll gladly take a wifi-enabled pellet smoker with a temperature probe over it.

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[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 31 points 18 hours ago (8 children)

A grill should run on charcoal. It needs to get very hot and that's literally it.

There's a universe where I attach some electronic controller with a PID loop or something to a smoker, to maintain consistent temperatures via damper control. I'm not buying that off the shelf built into the machine though.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 14 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

A grill should run on charcoal.

Someone insert the KOTH reference, I'm too tired, I tell you hwat

[–] grue@lemmy.world 15 points 15 hours ago

Hank is wrong. If all you care about is the "heat," you might as well go inside and cook on your stove!

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[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 28 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

I like my home automation tech but it needs to serve a purpose. Just being connected to wifi is not a selling point for me. Lights that turn on in the morning when I need to wake up are great. A thermostat that can reduce energy usage when nobody is home is also great. But a grill….what the fuck does Internet access do to improve the grilling experience?

And if it requires the cloud to work, I don’t consider it a functional product.

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[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Imagine a grill without the latest firewall

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 23 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Ah hell yes. Fire 2.0 finally dropped.

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[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Can we go back to dumb tech?

[–] AniZaeger@lemmy.world 10 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

I'm a casino slot tech. Don't even get me started on the electronic table games that still use a dealer! Like Scotty said, "The more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain.".

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[–] sundray@lemmus.org 17 points 1 day ago

"Le Firmware? WHAT THE HELL IS THAT?"

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 hours ago (2 children)
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[–] cheers_queers@lemmy.zip 16 points 7 hours ago (3 children)
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[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 13 points 9 hours ago (7 children)

There was a silly little movie in the 80's called "Maximum Overdrive", written and directed by Stephen King.

In it Aliens somehow cause machines to 'turn' on human beings and attack us.

They could remake that movie now but instead of Aliens causing the machines to attack people, it could be malicious 'hackers' that do it, and it would be more believable that the original film.

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[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 13 points 5 hours ago

But supposed they invented a whole new kind of meat and your grill wasn't ready to deal with it? How would you feel then? Pretty darn silly, that's how!

[–] this@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Probably a security update to try and keep it from being part of a botnet maybe? What would work better though is never connecting it to a network or even better, just don't make it smart for no dam reason, lol.

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Idk I just simply wouldn't buy the wifi grill

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 11 points 4 hours ago

I have a friend who's really big in to smoking meats for hours and hours and days at a time. He loves this kind of thing because he can monitor the smoker without physically being in front of it.

I think he's crazy af for involving the damned internet in it but I guess it is what it is when you're "cooking" something for 9 hours.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 10 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Yet more reasons that charcoal/firewood is superior.

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