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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 203 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

I've been saying since 2016 that Sanders' executive orders alone would have moved the US further in the right direction than any president since LBJ.

The last six months of Donald Trump have proven that. The presidency has all the power any party needs if they actually want to do real good.

[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 126 points 22 hours ago (10 children)

I think its hilarious how before Trumps 2nd term, the libshits would argue "but if they use executive orders to push through {legalization of abortion, marijuana, socialized healthcare, public transit, any number of good left leaning policies} the R's will do it back when theyre back in office!!

Now look where we are.

fucking libshits and MAGAts.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 65 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

Yeah so Biden did an executive order to forgive student debt, it got challenged in the courts and so it didn't happen.

People saying "Democrats should just do executive orders like Trump does" need to look into who's on the Supreme Court.

The "do everything by EO" strat only works for a party that has had a loyal voting base for decades so they have control of the courts.

Sorry to interrupt the "both sides" narrative leftists/MAGAs love so much.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 43 points 19 hours ago

No, the real strat is to ram hundreds of EOs through so fast the courts don't have time to shoot them all down. And then, I dunno, drone strike the opposition and call it an official presidential act cause evidently that's cool now.

[–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 12 points 19 hours ago

Exactly, it was all set up in the first term. They not only got the Supreme Court but also put in place a record number of judges across the country as well. They went for the throat, and everyone let them. Now you have corrupt people everywhere they need to do whatever they want, and also showed that even if they do get shot down, they still don't listen, and nothing happens, so whats the actual point?

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[–] match@pawb.social 27 points 22 hours ago

we had better damn well put in a president who's gonna EO everything to the far left

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

That’s still completely true. Not only that, Congress and SCOTUS can nullify any executive order.

[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 16 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

haha, yes they sure can. And they have! Look at how well its going!

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 15 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

There are only "checks and balances" when all 3 branches of government are not fascist/corrupt.

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[–] cogitase@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Sanders’ EOs with a conservative Supreme Court would have been unilaterally nullified. The conservative supermajority is what has allowed Trump to get away with the vast majority of this.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 56 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (24 children)

Sanders’ EOs with a conservative Supreme Court would have been unilaterally nullified.

If they'd run Sanders, they've had ended up with a Democratic supermajority. SCOTUS would have been largely irrelevant.

But it doesn't change facts. The powers of the presidency in the hands of an actual reformer, not a performative one like Biden or Obama, would have entailed true, fundamental change.

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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 14 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

That’s wholly incorrect. The only reason Trump’s executive orders have any power is due to the full majority support of the Republican-controlled Congress and the conservative SCOTUS.

Democrats forced a 15-day vote on the constitutionality of Trump’s initial purse-control power grab. The Republican majority redefined the entire congressional calendar as a single day, just to a valid holding the vote.

This amount of control comes from the abject loyalty of all three branches.

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[–] CorruptCheesecake@lemmy.world 65 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

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Jeb! is willing to overlook this transgression

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 30 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Sorry, it's spelled JEB!

Your lack of enthusiasm has been logged. Please clap.

[–] ignotum@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

1! = 1
2! = 2
3! = 6
4! = 24
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JEB! = +∞

[–] sad_detective_man@leminal.space 62 points 21 hours ago

sorry LEFTISTS, I will let fascists fuck us all dead before I steer progress away from anything that isn't Obama-nostalgic capitalism. oh and I'm pretty sure I heard that commie say something about term limits so I'm going to make that all of yous' problem just for even considering it.

[–] nuko147@lemmy.world 35 points 8 hours ago

Sorry but voters don't get a say in USA. They only can choose between the 2 that their bosses have chosen.

[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 32 points 12 hours ago (8 children)

People should have voted in primaries, then. I did. Both times. Clearly not enough did.

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[–] jwmgregory@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 8 hours ago (11 children)

every comment in this thread along the lines of

“wElL yOu sHoUldVE vOtEd tHeN!!!1!”

fucking confounds me bc ig you guys either have a weird victim blaming kink or you have massively more faith in our electoral system’s veracity than i do.

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[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 19 points 4 hours ago (18 children)

Imagine relentlessly defending attempts to appeal to red states and conservatives as a viable electoral strategy, and then refer to Sanders support on this map as 'empty land'.

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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 17 points 22 hours ago (8 children)

The maps says 2019.

Biden won the primary in 2020 and proceeded to win the presidency.

You should know because you’re been posting anti-Biden content since then.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 25 points 22 hours ago

Plus I think you’re referring to this poll

A Monmouth University poll released Monday showed Sanders and Warren effectively tied with Biden, but the survey has a large margin of error and is an outlier compared with other recent national polls, which have usually shown Biden with a lead of at least several points.

Biden, Sanders and Warren are tied for the lead in one poll. Biden’s on top in another - Aug. 27, 2019

[–] pikmeir@lemmy.world 9 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

As someone who's been here since the beginning of the whole Reddit debacle you are correct. That's been their posting style from as far as I can remember.

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Why would the dems even want to win, when their co-workers are doing a much better job of passing the fascist policies that they all agree on? Why settle for kamalacaust when trump will go even further?

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 14 hours ago

Death to the DNC never forget

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 14 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

why wouldn't they? Bernie's interests are aligned completely opposite to the interests of whatever groups that keep at least half of those democrats in their seats. That became much more clear when they happily voted no to Bernie's "ban weapon sale to Israel" motions.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 11 points 18 hours ago (6 children)

Good question.

If Democrats were reasonable, objective people (which they are not), they'd probably look at the fact that the state of Missouri passed a $15 minimum wage, required paid sick leave, AND legalized abortion in the same election where they elected Republicans.

And then take that as a lesson of maybe what they should be doing in order to win back red states.

But they won't.

They're in the pocket of the rich and couldn't care less about people who work for a living.

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 14 points 10 hours ago (13 children)

Great, now we're doing "land votes" takes just like conservative boomers posting minion memes on Facebook.

I'm so glad to see that the 'left' isn't as fucking braindead as the ghouls on the right. /s

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 10 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

But the land does vote.

That's the whole issue with gerrymandering and the electoral college.

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