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[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 129 points 1 day ago (8 children)

I think its hilarious how before Trumps 2nd term, the libshits would argue "but if they use executive orders to push through {legalization of abortion, marijuana, socialized healthcare, public transit, any number of good left leaning policies} the R's will do it back when theyre back in office!!

Now look where we are.

fucking libshits and MAGAts.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 69 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

Yeah so Biden did an executive order to forgive student debt, it got challenged in the courts and so it didn't happen.

People saying "Democrats should just do executive orders like Trump does" need to look into who's on the Supreme Court.

The "do everything by EO" strat only works for a party that has had a loyal voting base for decades so they have control of the courts.

Sorry to interrupt the "both sides" narrative leftists/MAGAs love so much.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 44 points 21 hours ago

No, the real strat is to ram hundreds of EOs through so fast the courts don't have time to shoot them all down. And then, I dunno, drone strike the opposition and call it an official presidential act cause evidently that's cool now.

[–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 13 points 21 hours ago

Exactly, it was all set up in the first term. They not only got the Supreme Court but also put in place a record number of judges across the country as well. They went for the throat, and everyone let them. Now you have corrupt people everywhere they need to do whatever they want, and also showed that even if they do get shot down, they still don't listen, and nothing happens, so whats the actual point?

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 7 points 13 hours ago

It doesn't hurt to try though. Make them actually shoot the EOs down. Don't just assume they will so you do nothing. Force their hand.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

^ This. If we're lucky enough to get a Democratic president willing to abuse the executive order system the way Trump is, and make no mistake, it IS abuse... the same Supreme Court that ruled "Well, the President can do it" would look at a Democratic President and go "Whoah, woah, whoah, we didn't mean YOU could do it."

[–] match@pawb.social 28 points 1 day ago

we had better damn well put in a president who's gonna EO everything to the far left

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That’s still completely true. Not only that, Congress and SCOTUS can nullify any executive order.

[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 16 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

haha, yes they sure can. And they have! Look at how well its going!

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 16 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

There are only "checks and balances" when all 3 branches of government are not fascist/corrupt.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, elder statesmen like Biden still believed in things like exercising power responsibly within the balance of power like many presidents before them.

That wasn't good enough, too many people took the "lesser evil" quote to heart. So now we have a dipshit writing EOs faster than the court system moves, and I hope there's a god to help the country get out of this.

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Let’s not forget they’ve spent the past 4-8 years putting their people into the right places to allow them to start doing whatever they want.

[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 2 points 16 hours ago

You say this as if the dems could have never done what they did.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

None of these things can be performed by executive order. A big reason that bill just had to be passed was his deportations and detainings couldn't be performed without money from Congress

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

They have the house, senate, the courts and are all yes man followers.

[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

God forbid someone want to keep some semblance of democracy without completely giving up hope in a race to the bottom.