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[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 11 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

But the land does vote.

That's the whole issue with gerrymandering and the electoral college.

[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

They’re talking about traitor lunatics who complain that a mostly red map (traitor lunatic counties) doesn’t result in a traitor lunatic victory. It’s the whole “people live in cities” joke.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I don't get it actually. I think you are relying on me getting some of those terms and I am not.

Sorry.

[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry about that. I was being cheeky but serious. Here it is in English:

They’re talking about Republicans/right wingers who complain when a mostly red looking map (Republican won counties) doesn’t result in a Republican victory. It’s the whole “people live in cities” joke.

So what happens is, these folks look at a map of the US that’s divided into counties and they see these enormous swaths of red, but a Democrat has won, and they—100% in earnest—say that it’s evidence that the election is stolen. That’s why we respond with “land doesn’t vote” and “people live in cities”.

Does that make more sense?

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 1 points 2 hours ago

Yup yup!

The maps are as misleading as a Verizon coverage map. And Kornacki at the board saying it really only matters for the counties that have millions of votes vs all the tiny counties that come in immediately cause they have 10,000 people living there.

I think the problem is that we have accept these counties do matter though. A state being 3 blue and the rest red even if it's where everyone lives is blue means that the land is voting. Very heavily too. And stuff like electoral votes being so many for this less populated land means we have to take it into account. So losing 1,000 battles but losing the war sounds like losing to me.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world -5 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Okay but:

  1. Bernie was never going to win the deep-red states on the strength of his primary polling.

  2. Land doesn't vote in the Dem primaries.

  3. The implication of these maps is to present one candidate or party or idea as overwhelmingly popular, when it's just color-by-the-numbers for largely empty space.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 3 points 11 hours ago

But it's not empty space?

It is the low density states that make it so much easier for the Republicans to win especially when the Democrats avoid them and people call it empty.

Those states that are "empty" are always half of the electoral votes.

Also don't do statistics for a thing we don't have any data for we don't know how he would have performed cause it's not just simple math it's real life and we never got to, nor will we ever know.