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The Senate has passed a bill making Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) the U.S.'s largest interior law enforcement agency with funding for Donald Trump's immigration enforcement agenda higher than most of the world's militaries, including Israel's.

Pending its passage in the House of Representatives, Trump's bill could mean a massive increase in ICE funding as part of an immigration enforcement agenda worth $150 billion over four years.

This figure is more than the annual military budget of Italy, which at $30.8 billion, is the world's 16th highest defense spender for this year according to tracker Global Fire Power.

It is also higher than military spending for Israel, ($30 billion), the Netherlands ($27 billion) and Brazil ($26.1 billion).

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[–] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 104 points 1 day ago (17 children)

We should quit paying our taxes

[–] Damionsipher@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (19 children)

Leave the US. If you have expertise you'll be easily welcomed into most countries, if not, there is are a lot of countries you can still move to that are not police states. Either way you'll stop paying/supporting and supporting US fascism with your work. The immigrants your government is so eager to deport have been through worse.

[–] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (8 children)

I would have been gone years ago I just don’t really have the means to leave

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[–] JordanZ@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (8 children)

The US is an odd duck when it comes to taxes

The USA is one of the few countries of the world which levies personal income tax on all its citizens: not only on its residents - citizens or non-citizens - but also on its citizens who do not live in the country. All citizens of the United States are taxed under the same personal income tax system, regardless of whether they live in the country or abroad.

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[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Too late for that now..they'll just take all your money, house, claim you're not a citizen, force you to work for 1/256th of that you earn now and keep the bribe from companies that bought you.

[–] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well either choice leads to imprisonment of some type so I’ll go out blasting rather than perpetuate it

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[–] dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works 90 points 1 day ago (4 children)

That means this is their new military.

Pretty clever if you think if it. They don't try to convince their current one but build one up besides them while starving them of their resources.

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 88 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Building a paramilitary beholden to Party-aligned officials as a stopgap until the Party seizes total control of the actual military is boilerplate fascism.

EDIT: And when they do seize control the military, it usually doesn't end well for the paramilitary.

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[–] theherk@lemmy.world 14 points 22 hours ago

It does seem a lot like Schutzstaffel. They’ll need their very own Stasi too.

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[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 66 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

There's no way they need all those people and resources if they're only going after illegal immigrants. They're going to start disappearing their other targets too. People of Colour, Democrats, LGBTQ, scientists. Get in line. I hope you're ready for what we know is coming.

First they came for the immigrants...

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 8 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

It'll be trans people first. Then gays. Eventually blacks. Then democrats.

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[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 58 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

Daily reminder to all ICE agents. By signing up for ICE, you have signed yourself up for a lifetime of fear and criminal liability. There are Nazi concentration camp guards that were tried for their crimes in their 90s. There is no statute of limitations on crimes against humanity. Your names are recorded; your deeds are known. And you will face justice for your crimes. And do not count on a blanket pardon saving you. Crimes against humanity are violations of international law that cannot be pardoned.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 15 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

fuck legal systems, we all know the next democrat will pardon them or refuse to prosecute them.

they need to live in fear from decent human beings,

[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 9 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

There's not going to be a next Democrat.

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[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago

surely this neck gaiter will protect me from consequences

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[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 45 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Gestapo. They're Nazi Gestapo. Treat them as they deserve.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I'd argue they are more like the SS at this point. Consider: the point of the Gestapo was to police the German population and root out internal threats to the Nazis. The SS, on the other hand, were a military branch that were responsible for eradication of the "undesirable elements". I feel like the latter is a more fitting mold for ICE.

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[–] Psiczar@aussie.zone 41 points 18 hours ago (5 children)

We’re probably nearing the point where Americans will start trying to get over the border wall and into Mexico.

[–] atticus88th@lemmy.world 9 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Luckily CBP got a nice budget increase so they can prevent anyone from leaving too.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I can totally see this coming.

The developed world has a population growth problem. Population growth has slowed or reversed in many countries, but the global economy is designed around infinite growth, fed by an infinitely growing pool of workers and customers. Then when they retire they can be taken care of by the infinitely growing population of young people.

It takes zero imagination to picture this administration forcing "high value human resources" to remain in the country, including putting them on no fly lists. Unfortunately since they are stupid, the brain drain has already started.

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[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago (4 children)

Honestly been looking into it. If things go south enough, I’ve thought about driving down that way. Closer than Canada. I’d have to get through Texas, but teaching math in Mexico City sounds nice.

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[–] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 37 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 57 minutes ago) (1 children)

Is anyone still pretending ICE is about immigration? ICE is Trump's SS, and they just got funding beyond any dictator's wildest dreams. Good luck with your totalitarian police state.

Edit: I want to retract my last sentence. It was callous and stupid. My heart aches for the people who fought against this.

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[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 36 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Seems like it’s time to for people to learn about sustained direct action campaigns.

Rev Left Radio had a great interview earlier this year with a member of Palestine Action about their extremely successful direct action campaign against Israeli weapons manufacturer Elbit. While the media would have you believe that Palestine Action is an ineffective bunch of clowns, they have already forced the closure of two weapons factories in England and forced Barclays Bank to divest from Elbit through sustained sabotage campaigns. Their incredible success is the actual reason the UK government has named them a terrorist organization, not just for spray painting some planes.

https://revolutionaryleftradio.libsyn.com/size/5/?search=Palestine+action

For legal reasons, I am not encouraging anyone to break any laws.

[–] setenforce@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 hours ago

Love Rev Left, recommended listening for everyone

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 30 points 16 hours ago

Remember when republican bitches about how much we spent on immigration?

[–] Hathaway@lemmy.zip 28 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I’m officially ready to be radicalized.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 16 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I'm this country, not wanting to go to a concentration camp makes you a radical

[–] Zink@programming.dev 6 points 17 hours ago

Not wanting to go to a concentration camp is understandable, especially if you have a high paying job.

Not wanting OTHER people you've never met to go to concentration camps? Whoaaa there Che, put down that AK-47!

[–] Mamdani_Da_Savior@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago (2 children)
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[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 14 points 10 hours ago

So now they are the biggest millitary and paramilitary spender. Cool.

[–] baratheon@lemmy.world 12 points 22 hours ago

Its incredible what people will support with actual money and loss of freedom if they are sold racist lies

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 10 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Even more so when you remember that the original "we need to get rid of all those immigrants" argument stemmed from migrants costing the country too much money.

Trillions for deportation. Not one penny for infrastructure or social services.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 hours ago

The ICE budget is free college for everyone like 3 times over.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 8 points 11 hours ago

Good, service guarantees citizenship and the way things are going, the Greatestest and Bestest Democraciest Peaciest and Freedomest Country in the Whole Wide Universe will need some ~~cannon fodder~~ highly qualified personnel.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Honest question: why couldn’t the bill be repealed if Dems win the house and senate at midterms?

[–] Todd_cross@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

If Democrats win the House and Senate at midterms and have a veto proof majority in the Senate (EDIT: or House), then yeah, maybe they could pass a new bill that repeals all these things.

If they don't have a veto proof majority, then Trump will just veto it.

(My bad, I had forgotten that it's possible for the House to cancel a presidential veto with a large enough majority also)

[–] DrunkEngineer@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago

The Federal budget is passed annually, and all spending bills must originate in the House.

[–] FireAtWill@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

Well we were the most prosperous country in the world while being racist to the hilt. I'm guessing the GOP thinks that might be the secret sauce.

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