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We should quit paying our taxes
Leave the US. If you have expertise you'll be easily welcomed into most countries, if not, there is are a lot of countries you can still move to that are not police states. Either way you'll stop paying/supporting and supporting US fascism with your work. The immigrants your government is so eager to deport have been through worse.
I would have been gone years ago I just don’t really have the means to leave
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As if any cops would even attempt to stop them instead of joining in. Calling the police is just giving them backup.
No, but there will be a war front that you can position yourself on the not-scum side of.
The US is an odd duck when it comes to taxes…
This is true but you’re only taxed by the US if the country in which you live isn’t taxing you higher already. So if you move to a gulf Arab state with no income tax yes. But most places in Europe? You won’t have to pay US tax since domestic tax will be higher.
There are too few places to escape to in modern society, given the rise of authoritarian globally. I was planning on Germany until the Russia/Ukraine conflict. Now I find it more prudent to stay in the U.S. and relocate to a low population area. For the handful of dense urban environments in the U.S. there are far more wide open spaces with no people.
I left earlier this year. I'm a tan skinned Latina trans woman immigrant, basically their #1 target. I'm still absolutely terrified for my friends and family.
I truly hate that I'm still chained to the US via my citizenship. A part of me hopes they denaturalize me so I don't have to pay them shit.
Can't you denounce your citizenship? It's also not possible for them to force you to pay taxes on income you don't earn in the US - unless you want to return at some point. I hope you're some place safe that respects your identity now.
Renouncing US citizenship is no easy task, and I'd rather not do that before I get new citizenship
Totally fair - being stateless is objectively worse that being hated by your state (I don't mean that sarcasticly, it's fucked up on so many levels)
I think it's actually pretty expensive to renounce US citizenship
The US is a bit special. It is the only state to require its citizens pay taxes to it on (regular) earnings abroad. Other places only tax earnings made inside their own borders.
So to truly be off the hook for American taxes as a non-elite, you'll have to renounce your citizenship.
Don't leave. It solves nothing and allows growth of tyranny. Fight back.
Tyranny has taken over - staying is a choice to live in fascism. Fascism does not die from within, it does a slow death from being excommunicated from the world or it dies a quick death as the world responds to it's expansionist tendencies. It does not die because people stop voting for it.
I am not speaking about voting. I am speaking about revolution. Americans wouldn't understand that I suppose. They certainly don't seem to.
Civil war/sabotage from within are option too, but I am not seeing any sense of leadership emerging on either of those fronts (not to say it would/should be obvious).
It keeps you alive. Just ask all those Europeans who fled the bloodbath of the world wars.
Too late for that now..they'll just take all your money, house, claim you're not a citizen, force you to work for 1/256th of that you earn now and keep the bribe from companies that bought you.
Well either choice leads to imprisonment of some type so I’ll go out blasting rather than perpetuate it
Be safe.
The government can just print money, they don't actually strictly need your taxes (see MMT). The only actual path is withholding labour and mass protests (with at least a credible threat of violent escalations).
Printing money is how you get hyperinflation. You cant just print money without it flooding the market. If you do that too often, the money becomes worthless.
Fuck it! Either the dollar fails because no one wants to come to the US.. or you just keep printing money. Either way you’re fucked.
Yeah, I don't see a lot of ways this ends well. Maybe a prolonged national strike. But even that isn't likely to happen.
I haven’t contributed to the economy in any meaningful way and have managed to make money without working any real job since the last place I worked at shuttered in 2020, withholding my labor. I’ve been doing my part. And I’m only one person so there’s not much else I can do unless more people are also doing it.
Do you not buy anything with sales tax attached to it?
I worded what I said to account for small things like that by saying I haven’t contributed to the economy in any meaningful way. I see you want to play little games about it so I guess I’ll have to explain that that part of my statement was to mean things such as loans, stock market, and not spending expendable income. If you want to play the game of scrutinizing though then fuck off