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The Senate has passed a bill making Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) the U.S.'s largest interior law enforcement agency with funding for Donald Trump's immigration enforcement agenda higher than most of the world's militaries, including Israel's.

Pending its passage in the House of Representatives, Trump's bill could mean a massive increase in ICE funding as part of an immigration enforcement agenda worth $150 billion over four years.

This figure is more than the annual military budget of Italy, which at $30.8 billion, is the world's 16th highest defense spender for this year according to tracker Global Fire Power.

It is also higher than military spending for Israel, ($30 billion), the Netherlands ($27 billion) and Brazil ($26.1 billion).

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[–] JordanZ@lemmy.world 11 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

The US is an odd duck when it comes to taxes

The USA is one of the few countries of the world which levies personal income tax on all its citizens: not only on its residents - citizens or non-citizens - but also on its citizens who do not live in the country. All citizens of the United States are taxed under the same personal income tax system, regardless of whether they live in the country or abroad.

This is true but you’re only taxed by the US if the country in which you live isn’t taxing you higher already. So if you move to a gulf Arab state with no income tax yes. But most places in Europe? You won’t have to pay US tax since domestic tax will be higher.

[–] Damionsipher@lemmy.world -2 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

You only have to pay them if you move back to the US (and want to work). It's not like other governments disclose your finances to the US.

[–] protojefe@lemmy.ca 6 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Absolutely not true. If you want anything to do with US banking, social security, Embassy services, you better pay up. And every bank you open abroad is literally required to disclose to the IRS that you have a bank account with them. Source: I live abroad.

[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 2 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

The idea being put forward is leaving the US and never returning.

[–] protojefe@lemmy.ca 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Until you acquire a new citizenship and renounce your US citizenship, the US government affects everything you do, regardless of where you are. Just leaving with no intention of returning does nothing. Source: me

[–] Damionsipher@lemmy.world 0 points 13 hours ago

That anyone would want to be part of a regime that oppressive and call it freedom is insane, to put it lightly.

[–] JordanZ@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

For more info…the legal requirement is part of FATCA

The Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act (FATCA), which was passed as part of the HIRE Act, generally requires that foreign financial Institutions and certain other non-financial foreign entities report on the foreign assets held by their U.S. account holders or be subject to withholding on withholdable payments.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

You only have to pay them if you move back to the US

Specifically if you're a contractor simply working abroad. If you don't actually reside in the US and you earn foreign income /pay taxes for a year, you're not going to owe anything.

That said, if you travel overseas for three months on contract, earn a ton of money, and come home to spend it, you have to report that in the US minus taxes payed abroad.