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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/46890078

cross-posted from: https://rss.ponder.cat/post/216477

ICE said the Canadian was found unresponsive Monday at the Federal Detention Center in Miami and was attended to by medical staff, but was pronounced dead the same day.


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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 100 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Well, yeah but he probably just got here...

Checks notes

ICE noted Noviello had been a lawful permanent resident of the U.S. since 1991, after entering the country through legal visa status in 1988. However, it also said he was facing removal for being convicted of drug charges “as a non-immigrant overstay.”

37 years ago

[–] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 46 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, at that point, he was more American than Canadian. The US government should have to explain either why he wasn't granted citizenship or else why he wasn't deported. Keeping people in citizenship limbo is just diet slavery, a disposable workforce. I get that's probably the whole point and has been for a while, but I also think it's good to call it out until enough people care to make a change.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago

The US government should have to explain either why he wasn’t granted citizenship

FYI, Citizenship is not automatic. I think the reason why Citizenship isn't automatic is because of the oath of allegiance. Its symbolic, but many countries take these procedures very seriously for some reason. I think it's that, from the PoV of Governments (not just the US Government), and I'm not saying that I agree with this view, but Governments think that "If you really wanted to stay, you would've applied for citizenship as early as possible". They (Governments around the world) want you to affirmatively choose to become a citizen, not just passively gain citizenship by waiting out a timer.

He should've applied for citizenship the moment the 5-year timer came up. Actualy its 4 years and 6 months and you could pre-emptively file and they'll immediately process it at the 5 year mark. Not filing for citizenship is a very bad idea, no matter which country you are in the world. He was in the US for so long, he should've applied. (But then again, even with Citizenship, its still not exactly safe either with the all the autocratization going on)

I think that there should be a law that make it so that once someone becomes eligible for citizenship, they should be in a sepatate category of permanent residents, a sort of protected status against deportation for like basically anything except for serious offenses like mass murders or like a Jan 6 Insurrection type of thing.

[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 72 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Again, the same passive voice. The word they should use is Killed.

[–] Botzo@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's archetypal passive voice since it doesn't change the target of the verb and uses state-of-being plus past participle.

"ICE kills Canadian citizen" switches this around.

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 9 points 3 days ago

Masked Gang Kidnap and kill Canadian citizen under Trump orders

would be a proper title

[–] Blumpkinhead@lemmy.world 70 points 4 days ago (1 children)

“At no time during detention is a detained illegal alien denied emergent care.”

I guess that doesn't go for legal residents, like this guy was.

[–] Allemaniac@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

For them, immigrants aren't humans and do not deserve humane treatment. Who tf calls a human being an "alien"??

[–] RustyShackleford@programming.dev 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The first definition of alien is "foreign", not "extraterrestrial".

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

It's dehumanizing language, nonetheless.

[–] audaxdreik@pawb.social 60 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Canada now gets to pick one of ours. Fair is fair.

Any one. Anyone at all. Just pick >_>

[–] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago

Are politicians on the menu?

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

That's a difficult choice. So many good candidates. But we're still nicer than that, for now.

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 days ago

Only one?

/joke

[–] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago

Anyone? Why let more innocent people suffer. Hand over those responsible.

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago

anyone specific? I have a little list Of society offenders who might well be underground And who never would be missed — who never would be missed!

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 52 points 4 days ago (2 children)

wonder how next snowbird migration is going to play out

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 69 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It's already not good this year. My dad owns a condo in Florida and said a lot of the Canadians sold their condos in his complex. They just didn't want to deal with the extra immigration paperwork this administration added.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 43 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] WarmSoda@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago

But especially the paperwork in the gulags.

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 10 points 4 days ago (3 children)

This comment pisses me off so much.

Are you serious? Paperwork? That's what your dad thinks Canadians are concerned about?

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 29 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They have a second condo in Florida they're well off and mostly-white

They have that "won't happen to me" attitude.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 days ago

Hmm, they sound nice.

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 22 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Probably since I'm assuming most of them are white.

Old white people basically never think they're going to be the target for government discrimination.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yes, because that's what they have said they are concerned about. Why doubt what they say?

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

BeCaUSE ThaTs wHat ThEy SaId.

I'm sorry, but it's really this kind of willful ignorance that keeps me boycotting the US. You think maybe it's the shit for brains president not only starting a worldwide trade war including its allies and even threatening to annex us? Or the fact that half of you support the rapist? Or the fact that we have to risk being sent to El Salvadore for whatever arbitrary ewason?

Please, think a little for God's sake. Do we really need to spell everything out???

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

I believe that many people think that. I also believe those are the reasons I would avoid the US. But, these people said they didn't want to deal with the hassle and I have no reason to doubt them. If they were afraid of being deported, they could have said that. These people are perfectly capable of speaking for themselves, I don't need to put words in their mouth.

[–] BlackAura@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

My parents used to go down to Arizona. They sold their trailer back in 2018 (so just before Covid which was very lucky). They've done the odd trip down to the US (they sold because they wanted to go to different places) but plan to go out to Vancouver Island and other places more often now.

Family friends with a house in Palm Desert sold their place after Trump joked about Canada being the 51st state and plan to never go back down again. At least for as long as he is president.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 25 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Cool, we’re starting to murder our neighbors. How great for us. Super swell.

[–] desertdruid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Starting? I need to remind you Mexicans are US neighbors too

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago

True. I apologize.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Follow the money. I guarantee a private company was involved and they probably do some kind of business in Canada. Make sure they're completely booted from the Canadian market.

Make sure to sanction their employees and their employees families too.

[–] sad_detective_man@leminal.space 18 points 4 days ago

ooooooh, careful guys. that border has lawyers. you were only supposed to cause wrongful deaths on the other one

Ice kills foreign citizen

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

This is why, as a Canadian, I will not be going to the US any time soon.

[–] mrslt@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Fascist regime kills foreign national. Fixed.

Canada, nows the time to reveal your secret robot army and take revenge. You have a secret robot army, right?

[–] tym@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is the last chance for the world-at-large to stop this. murica LLC is cooked.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Looks at all the previous lines in the sand, stretching far off into the distance