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[–] artifex@lemmy.zip 191 points 3 days ago (4 children)

On the one hand, I understand the inherent limitations of pseudonymous social media and why a corporation and even end users might benefit from authoritative user identification.

On the other hand, oh hell no.

[–] floop@lemmy.dbzer0.com 154 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Exactly. Reddit isn’t my fucking bank. They don’t need to know who I am.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 47 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Your bank doesn't even need to know who you are.

On a related note, Bank of America, if you're reading this, my name is floop @lemmy.dbzer0.com, and I would like to withdraw all the money from my account. Nonsequential bills please!

[–] Pieisawesome@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The banks are legally required to know who you are. It’s part of AML and anti-terrorist financing laws

It’s called KYC or “know your customer”.

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[–] cuteness@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 days ago

They don’t even require an email when signing up. At the same time they speed run to biometrics.

What a shit show they’ve become.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I mean, there's someone here who has (not even exaggerating) 15+ accounts that they just rotate thru.

It's a hassle to block them all because I still see new ones, but I'll take that over "proving myself" as a unique person with something like this.

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[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

I don't think psudonyms are an issue, but verifying that a user is an actual person vs an AI chatbot is absolutely something that every popular social media platform will need to tackle at some point.

[–] SpatchyIsOnline@lemmy.world 45 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Hmm funny how Sam Altman is one of the few people responsible for creating that problem and now he's selling the solution to it

[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 22 points 3 days ago

It's actually low-key brilliant. Start a gold rush, when you realize the gold isn't actually there, pivot to selling shovels and keep hyping the gold rush. Fools and their money are soon parted, and there seem to be an endless supply of them.

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[–] LWD@lemm.ee 103 points 3 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)
[–] tarknassus@lemmy.world 35 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This worldcoin? Yeah, it’s looking real good right now…

[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'll give you $1 per eyeball

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[–] big_slap@lemmy.world 83 points 3 days ago (2 children)

scan your eyes to use social media? don't mind if I DONT lol

[–] lupusblackfur@lemmy.world 42 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I will happily forego any/all social media (and never look back) rather than submit to such an idiotic, intrusive, perverse, and disgusting system.

🤦‍♀️ 🙄 🤡 🖕 💩

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 61 points 3 days ago (5 children)

If World ID becomes one of Reddit’s third-party providers, it would be good news for Tools for Humanity, which was founded six years ago with the lofty goal of providing a universal basic income to the world by offering them cryptocurrency called Worldcoin in exchange for scanning their eyeballs with an Orb.

What the actual fuck.

Seriously how on Earth is that supposed to work?

[–] frank@sopuli.xyz 44 points 3 days ago

It's just a buzzword volly to get people to want to surrender more data. Actually insane premise lmao

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[–] Dogyote@slrpnk.net 53 points 3 days ago (3 children)

So this guy helps create a technology that turns bots up to 11 and then he turns around to sell us a privacy invasive solution to the problem he created? What a fucking asshole.

[–] Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But would it make you feel better to know that there’s also a crypto currency associated with it?

[–] Dogyote@slrpnk.net 15 points 3 days ago

I can't believe you've done this to me

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[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 40 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Scan your biounique eyeball to provide ID whilst retaining your anonymity???

Anonymity and the ability for someone else to prove it was me are nearly opposites.

[–] jwmgregory@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I mean, I don't trust OpenAI or Reddit either but these two things aren't as mutually exclusive as they seem.

With zero-knowledge principles you could maintain anonymity while still verifying identity. Doesn't mean that's what big tech is doing or is gonna do, but also doesn't mean it's physically unreal or anything either. We could build a not shitty system.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Biounique id is an advertiser's wet dream and I don't think it's theoretically possible to prevent it from being exploited for profiling by Google. If the hashed encrypted token retains the uniqueness then it points to you as an individual across time, devices and location changes. There is no escaping this ID. You can't change it, you can't get a new one.

Google and other multinational corporations WILL know where you live and can figure out all your personal characteristics with a little time. Your anonymity is gone forever.

Sam Altman saw the film Minority Report in which iris scanners on holographic billboards trigger the advertisements to address you by name, hampering the escape of the central character who was being set up, and thought "Cool, let's make this. I'm going to be rich! The other dystopian aspects of the film are fiction, but this one I can make real."

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[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Identity does not need to be verified by a private company's scan of someone's eyeballs.

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[–] besselj@lemmy.ca 35 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Lol. The bots to humans ratio will get even bigger if that happens.

[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 30 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It works: You can tell the real humans because they'll be the only ones unwilling to do this invasive bullshit. The bots will just come up with something fake to scan and carry on as they always have.

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[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago (2 children)
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[–] Tetragrade@leminal.space 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Drink verification can to continue.

[–] SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Thanks Reddit for giving me yet another reason not to go back

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[–] Tronn4@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] gleb@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] Retrograde@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

I thought this was an onion article or something

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[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Humans with human eyeballs are still using Reddit? I thought it was just bots moderating bots by now.

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[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (3 children)

This will do it. It will finally kill reddit.

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[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 22 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Lemmy gonna get crowded soon

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[–] AcidicBasicGlitch@lemm.ee 22 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Who TF is actually going to want to use these platforms bad enough to do this shit?

Facebook sucks and has for quite some time.

Reddit is mainly just very poorly disguised government surveillance and AI generated advertisement, and none of the content is even enjoyable or enticing. Who TF is their target audience?

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[–] F_OFF_Reddit@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago

You'd have to get me high on PCP + cocaine + some sort of crazy shit like krokodil to just implant the idea that I need to verify my very existence to a private company to post comments online or to enjoy a website.

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 3 days ago

I would not ponder this orb

[–] AoxoMoxoA@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago
[–] pyre@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

lol

lmao, even

[–] Integrate777@discuss.online 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I mean, come on. We shit on redditors, but even redditors won't stand for getting their iris's scanned just to use the site..

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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

According to two people familiar with the matter, World ID could soon become a way for Reddit users to verify that they are unique individuals while remaining anonymous on the platform.

Reddit knowing who I am isn't okay though. Who tf trusts them?

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[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 16 points 3 days ago

Create a problem

Sell the solution

[–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

That is perhaps the only orb I care not to ponder.

[–] bimbimboy@lemmy.eco.br 13 points 3 days ago (6 children)

YES, PLEASE! DO IT!!! Give people more reasons to leave!!

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[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago
[–] atlien51@lemm.ee 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I really hope this drives a ton of users to Lemmy. I love this platform but it sadly really feels like a 20% Reddit :/

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It's a solution to a problem Lemmy will soon have in that case.

Which is bots.

Lemmy isn't flooded with bots and astroturfing because it's essentially too small to matter. The audience is something like < 0.001% that of reddit.

Once it grows the problem comes here as well, and we have no answers for it.

It's a shitty situation for the internet as a whole, and the only solution is verifying humans. And corporations CANNOT be trusted with that kind of access/power

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[–] brsrklf@jlai.lu 18 points 3 days ago (2 children)

A lot less than 20% when it comes to specific subjects. The great thing about reddit was finding communities around just about every topic or hobby. If 100 people had a passion for something they could meet on Reddit and still have a comfy, somewhat active sub reddit.

On Lemmy you've got generic technology, generic news, generic videogames, generic pics, and almost everything else doesn't get enough traction to keep living. It's a basic population problem, the fraction of people knowing about Lemmy is just not enough to gather around shared stuff. Even those that do use Lemmy are probably not aware of every community attempt that could interest them.

I still see more communities being abandoned than new ones appearing.

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