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[–] EvilFonzy@lemmy.world 106 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"I see the problem, your AP is in the Faraday Chasity Cage. Closing ticket."

[–] match@pawb.social 31 points 1 week ago

Putting my horny robots in the faraday chastity cage

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 78 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Remember when some jokers started selling Faraday cages for Wi-Fi routers on Amazon, claiming that it would protect the user from wireless signals?

[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 62 points 1 week ago

well i mean they're not lying

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 57 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is a 2.4 GHz directional WiFi antenna. Only the back element is connected to the transceiver. All of the other elements are there to focus the signal. Anything metallic within a few feet of an antenna will have a substantial effect on the signal. Think of it as light, because it is, only transparency of materials is a bit weird. The biggest issues will come from metallic materials that are earth grounded and anything with a wire length that is close to the wavelength of the radio light or below, especially around half and a quarter of the wavelength. That pictured wire pitch is spaced very close to the approximate 2.4 GHz wave length. For example most antenna are an insulated trace on a circuit board that is insulated with ground up to a point and then there is a small circuit element that stops the ground and the actual antenna trace continues for the respective light wavelength to transmit or receive. All an antenna is here is an exposed length of single conductor wire.

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[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago (3 children)

That's just an AP. That's not a directional antenna for a wireless bridge. You can even read the AP sticker on it.

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

All those confident words they typed... for nothing. Lol

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I must be missing the joke or something? That's literally what this is. It's an AP not a directional antenna. I have used a ton of directional antennas. Hell I have one that I'm using to get my network to my garage which is 1/4 of a mile away.

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Ah lol I gotcha!

[–] SteveTech@programming.dev 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think they were trying to say that the cage in front with the AP behind, acts as a directional antenna. Similar to how Yagi antennas have metal elements that aren't connected in front of the actual antenna.

But I don't know enough antenna theory to know if that's correct.

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago

It'll more likely act as a faraday cage.

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[–] tgxn@lemmy.tgxn.net 7 points 1 week ago

Yeah, It looks like a Cisco Aironet 2702i WAP.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Even if this was right, which it isn't, wifi stopped being 2.4Ghz exclusive almost 20 years ago. You have 5Ghz and since 5 year ago or so, 6Ghz, with significantly shorter wavelengths.

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

And if I look at the frequency spectrum I see that all my neighbours use 2.4GHz (9 are in channel 8) and I got the entire 5GHz spectrum to myself.

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[–] Justdaveisfine@midwest.social 45 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Hmm I don't think I get this one.

Is it because its in a cage? I don't think that will do much to block the WiFi antenna.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 113 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The bar spacing is smaller than 2.4GHz radio waves. It absolutely will affect signal. Should have used a plastic cage.

[–] Grostleton@lemm.ee 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Are they really that big? Huh, TIL.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 89 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Grostleton@lemm.ee 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Fascinating, thanks for the info

[–] Scope1684@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you liked that, check microwave doors design.

[–] Grostleton@lemm.ee 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I really enjoyed the Technology Connections video on Michaelwave ovens, actually.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Michael has such a cleaner design than that MikeRoweWave crap.

[–] oo1@lemmings.world 4 points 1 week ago

Michealwaves have like 200 times more michaelfarads of capacity.

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Doesn't look grounded, though.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 week ago

Screws in masonry probably act as a poor Ufer ground. The current is minuscule.

[–] nao@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If it wasn't grounded the cage wouldn't block the signal?

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 3 points 1 week ago

Wrap your phone in aluminium foil and get back to me

[–] psud@aussie.zone 2 points 1 week ago

It is probably more of a reflector rather than blocker, sending the signal back through the wall

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
[–] Grostleton@lemm.ee 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Faraday cages cannot block stable or slowly varying magnetic fields, such as the Earth's magnetic field (a compass will still work inside one). To a large degree, however, they shield the interior from external electromagnetic radiation if the conductor is thick enough and any holes are significantly smaller than the wavelength of the radiation

I'm certainly no expert, but something tells me the cage in OP's pic doesn't fit the criteria to act as a faraday cage.

E: Nope, I'm wrong. u/deegeese has informed me on how big the wavelength is.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 33 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The mesh is not dense enough to be a true Faraday cage for 2.4GHz, but is dense enough to hurt signal strength.

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It says WiFi is "slow" not "off."

I have definitely personally experienced WiFi instability with metals in between the WiFi and a PC.

Looks like possibly enough to make it drop a bunch of packets to me at least.

[–] zout@fedia.io 14 points 1 week ago

It will not act as a Faraday cage, the holes need to smaller for that, about 1 cm max. However, wifi signals do get disturbed by a cage like this due to the low power of these signals.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Wifi is a fickle beast, though you may be right.

The elements of the cage will probably interfere, but won't straight up block the signal. To be an effective faraday cage, holes in the material must be no bigger than 1/10th the wavelength.

2.4GHz wifi has a wavelength of 12cm, and 5GHz is about 5cm...so holes in the cage should be no bigger than 1.2cm for 2.4GHz, or 0.5cm for 5GHz.

I may expect some signal reflection and likely a high noise floor as a result to being so close to a hunk of metal. That'll cause some problems.

Problem #1 is this AP is oriented vertically on a wall. The antennas in these models are designed to be parallel to the floor, and usually not much higher than 15ft.

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

2.4GHz wifi has a wavelength of 12cm

that's actually massive, I thought it would be like half a centimeter at most

[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Newer standards are substantially shorter at 5GHz and 6GHz, but this comes at the cost of significantly worse signal penetration through walls.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

Which in a gym will be will be fine.

[–] ZeroGravitas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 1 week ago

Faraday was here!

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 32 points 1 week ago

Maybe if use smaller, tighter squares.

[–] marighost@piefed.social 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm just impressed they labelled the WAP.

[–] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Get a bucket and a mop for that wireless access point

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 7 points 1 week ago

*Wet Access Point.

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

They need more "I" in their IT, plastic protectors exist.

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[–] possumparty@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago

Yeah boss the RSSI numbers look great!

[–] pewpew@feddit.it 6 points 1 week ago

Oh I see the issue... They forgot to ground the cage

[–] PixelPilgrim@lemmings.world 5 points 1 week ago

The mesh is just about the size of the wifi wage length

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