These complete morons will not have food if these people do not pick the food.
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Gaza is the testing grounds for what life is about to be like in the West. Starvation will be used as a weapon eventually, and who's gonna stop them?
They can't really do that in America, there's too much land and room and food. They could temporarily trap a population within a city by surrounding it with some barricades and stuff but that won't last long. The population size of the US has a massive ratio of more citizens than law enforcement and military. They can't take us all.
For someone like me, if the food supplies were all cut off I could just live off of the land by hunting, fishing, and farming.
They can't really do that in America, there's too much land and room and food.
50% of the produce we consume is grown in the California central valley. The rest is grown in a few areas of the Great plains and in Florida.
Most of the food you see growing anywhere else isn't for people, it's for livestock.
For someone like me, if the food supplies were all cut off I could just live off of the land by hunting, fishing, and farming.
I think you are overestimating just how much food "the land" can provide. You need around an acre a person for subsistence farming, and that is assuming you live in a region that has a decent climate, that you have irrigation, and have access to modern fertilizer and pesticides.
As far as hunting and fishing goes..... If a large sector of the population had to live off the land, the wildlife likely wouldn't last a single season. The only reason we still have the wild animal populations we currently have is because there are strict regulations monitoring the amount of people who hunt and fish.
Early Americans were able to devastate a larger healthier ecology with a tiny fraction of our current population. Most of our country's natural Forrest and woodland were already destroyed and artificially rehabilitated over a hundred years ago. We have very few old growth Forrest for us to actually live off of.
If it weren't for petrochemical fertilizer the natural nitrogen cycle wouldn't be enough to sustain our current population. Since the invention of the haber process in the 1930s we are all just a bad year away from food insecurity.
I'd be careful with that last point - when a modern people is suddenly forced to turn to the land for sustenance instead of the industrial supply chain, overfishing and overhunting become problems quickly...you won't be the only person out looking for a meal.
Well at least our animal ecosystems are currently robust and thriving, right??
They are not paid to think.
Biting the hand that feeds you is a bold move
Yeah but who got in trouble for hiring them? Did the farm owner run?
It's only a crime to be an exploited worker. It's not a crime to exploit workers.
Well said. Fuck.
It's a crime to be poor. It's not a crime to be rich.
It was never about right or wrong or morals. It has always been about control. 97% of modern politics is to distract from this.
That's how you know this is all political bull shit. If they actually wanted to solve the "problem" in a much easier, more efficient way, then they would just go after the people that hire them.
Farm owner likely voted for this.
Owner called up ICE because he heard the word "union"
Surely this will decrease food prices /s
This at the same time maga is calling for a boycott of walmart. They just keep punching themselves in the face.
Someone posted the other day something like "A stupid person is someone who creates net negative gains. For example, they hurt themselves and others, and gain nothing from it."
Sadistic people like seeing others harmed. They will bear costs to themselves for the sake of seeing others suffer.
We've already seen the ghost of Christmas future here, it's when Georgia implemented their live scan law and all the small and mid size farmers in Georgia lost their whole harvest (and subsequently, the farm) because they just couldn't get Americans to come and pick for what they're willing to pay. A lot of these farmers voted and stumped for Trump, believing that certainly the face eating leopard who eats everyone's face and promises to eat everyone's face wouldn't eat their face. Get ready for a lot of "waaahhh, I didn't think he would hurt meeeeeeee" from these guys as millions of pounds of tomatoes rot on the vine this summer.
Also, this just fucking sucks. I live in the central valley, ag is a really big deal here, and a lot of ag workers are really hard-working stand up folks. Nobody deserves ICE, but these folks especially don't deserve it. I'd like to take this opportunity to wish ICE agents a very merry court date ASAP.
I wish these assholes rapid lead poisoning.
Second to that, a careful and thorough rout of them all, prosecuted heavily and drained of any assets by their victims for violating due process.
"They're just taking innocent people who are trying to build their own American Dream," said Daniel Larios with the UFW Foundation. "This is not law enforcement. It's a campaign of fear against people whose only 'crime' is living and working in the U.S."
When everything is illegal, nothing is illegal.
Doesn't mean people won't suffer, but when people have nothing to lose and everything to gain and will suffer regardless, then what?
but my chains are the only thing i have left ;-;
May every raid these fucks try to do be in the afternoon heat in full gear, with a raging hangover.
Ah yes, the dangerous criminals that are out farming for slave wages. Good job ICE. I'm assuming that ICE is going to punish the farmer that employed these dangerous criminals? ICE has entirely lost the fucking plot...
I can't wait for those MAGAS to finally get those lost jobs, and go pick up fruits and veggies for * check notes * 2 dollar an hour!
Surely we'll see republicans back to the farms, any moment from now
The plot is to make people angry enough where they do something worthy of getting black bagged. The US government wants people to act irrationally.
Like the scene in Andor. That series was very on point when it comes to the political landscape in the US today.
Almost like authors and artists have been warning us since the beginning of time
Every day I get news about the gestapo capturing the enemies of the reich and throwing them in box cars, and I hear nothing about citizens doing anything to stop them.
There are protests and people mobbing ice agents and standing in front of the boxcars and stuff. In LA/Paramount there were enough that they shit their pants and called daddy for backup. It’s not really possible for these remote farming communities to have mobs of people overwhelming ice because there just aren’t that many people in the middle of nowhere farms.
If you haven’t heard about any resistance activity I strongly recommend you reconsider how and where you consume media.
100% this. There's been resistance everywhere over this. Minnesota drove out a bunch of ICE agents from their neighborhoods, there's been major protests all over the US about it. Like... we're for sure doing it.
ICE is sneaking around the back roads in my city, and a local network sends out warning messages to local immigrants. I'm looking into what I can do as a citizen to make it more difficult for ICE, but I'm impressed by the messaging network that has been set up.
I’m at a point now where I can’t wait for this all to blow up. Literally and figuratively.
Going after our farm workers is not going to end well for anyone. I can only hope that someone in power will wake up and do something about it.
They just need to make them prisoners and then they will be able to get back to working in the fields again.
The people in power all see this as an absolute win. The things they're trying to do about it is hire more ICE agents. It's going to take a while before this blows up, and the only real way out of it is to hope that we have elections in a few years.
America is about to be really "healthy."
Cool, so we can look forward to empty shelves in grocery stores for domestic products and steep tariffs on foreign food products?
Oh but your average employment-seeker will totally line up to do that job for slave wages, so it’s all gud. /s
This is such a limp dick country... I fucking hate the USA... Genocidal fascist imperialist shit stain of a country.
food is going to get so fucking expensive...
like eggs, we're heading toward a produce shortage. Our supply of eggs is fine now, but prices are still high. They're gonna do the same thing with produce.
I'm ready for the fat fucks in this country to find out what happens when you bite the hand that feeds you. My misanthropic tendencies grow by the day.
That UFW symbol design is going to draw some negative sentiment for the black insignia in a white circle on red flag. Looks like a copy/paste swastika reworked.
White folks who don't understand how words work and vote are going to think ICE are busting field Nazis.
terroristic lettuce pickers probably making less than minimum wage…