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I’m asking as I’m trying to understand empathy and whether it’s normal to get so invested in fake characters, I mean it’s probably a testament to the writers but I overthink… a lot.

This question was bright on as I’ve been catching up on The Blacklist and at lunch today watching Season 8 Episode name “Anne “ and it wrecked me.

Tap for spoilerBasically the main character Red has to live a guarded life and for once he let it form and got close to Anne and you could tell shit was going to go downhill and it destroyed me when you think about it from his or her perspective.

For reference I’m 41 year old dude, not that it matters.

Edit: Bedtime for me but back tomorrow to reply to all.

Edit 2: I’ve got 41 comments to respond to. Currently working but I’ll be back y’all.

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[–] three@lemmy.zip 88 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah buddy, it's normal to feel your feelings.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I guess I grew up with people without feelings as when I raised with this my closest friends (5), none of them admitted to it. I know they could lie but I also don’t know how invested they get in to media.

[–] three@lemmy.zip 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They might be, they might not be. It's entirely possible that they don't interact with any media that contains emotions past shooting a gun. I've cried to music, movies, and books. Art (paintings, sculptures, etc) I've never had that reaction.

I think you’re on to something about them not really focusing on the same kind of media I gravitate towards, complex characters with a moral grey area.

Trying to think if I’ve cried over a book, the most emotional I can recall is the Steig Larsson millennium trilogy, but not sure if I cried was more psyched up for the story.

Art. Never, music lyrics yes but not musical pieces like classical which I listen to a lot. Going to try opera soon so maybe there. I can see people crying at art but I don’t think I understand art enough to even get to that level of emotional connection.

[–] ChocoboEnthusiast@leminal.space 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I mean this really speaks to the power of the human mind. We can put ourselves into someone else's shoes and experience what they're feeling. No other animal can do that that we can 100% prove. Enjoy that you have the ability to care for someone from finding out their story. It's a good and proper skill to have.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thanks, this is what I was hoping to touch on. The ability to put yourself in someone else’s shoes, even if that person is a terrible person I find it fascinating that we can still have some empathy for their predicament even if it’s kinda deserved.

Makes me wonder if it’s a scale sort of thing where some people are balling theirs out and another is untouched. Then how does this translate to real life? Like is that why my friends can’t understand why I would spend my time on Pro-Palestine matches for instance, is it a lack of empathy.

Apologies, for being deep on bloody Lemmy.

[–] BertramDitore@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, empathy is a very underrated and powerful emotion for us humans. It’s also one of the few emotions that can be learned, practiced, and improved (for most people).

I usually feel like an exposed nerve when I’m watching something even a little emotional, so I cry pretty hard. Sometimes I even find myself properly sobbing. But almost without exception I feel better afterwards, like I’ve purged something nasty from my body. I love that post-cry feeling.

I’d say someone who doesn’t understand why you go to Pro-Palestine marches probably has an empathy deficiency (if they’re even remotely aware of what’s going on in Palestine). But that’s a great opportunity to invite them to improve their own sense of empathy by joining you, or having an open-minded and genuine conversation with a Palestinian about their personal experiences (or watching an interview if they don’t know anyone personally). I find hearing about someone’s experiences living with atrocities happening all around them, in their own voice, should quickly dig up nearly anyone’s latent empathy. But it takes work for those who it doesn’t come to naturally, and those are the people who are probably least likely to put in the work.

That’s a good point about feeling better after crying, I wonder what is happening physiologically. I assume endorphins, dopamine, or serotonin are releases.

To your point about friends and Palestine, I think you’re correct and I will recommend them to watch The Settlers documentary by Louis Theroux.

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[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm a dude in his 40s. If anything, I've gotten more empathetic and easily moved over the years. I have cried at movies and over books.

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[–] GooberEar@lemmy.wtf 17 points 1 day ago

TV shows and movies are art. Eliciting an emotional response is kind of art's thing. Maybe not all art, but that's neither here nor there.

[–] Soapbox@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I often tear up from scenes from movies and tv. Yet basically never do for anything in real life.

I was listening to an NPR story the other day about how a ton of people showed up to donate blood to save an infant, and only one was a match, but it was anonymous, now the kid is a healthy 20yr old and the mom can't thank the person who saved them. It had my eyes all mushy on my commute home.

Yet, I had a cousin, and an uncle pass within the last few months and while I was sad, and I miss them, not a tear generated.

[–] USSEthernet@startrek.website 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'm the same way. My wife actually gives me shit for it because she doesn't understand how I can't have more feelings for those around me. I don't think I'd shed a tear or even feel that emotional for anyone in my extended family dying. Just my wife and kids. Makes me question if there's something wrong with me.

She can tell me some sad real life story and it doesn't affect me. But movies, shows, books, and games can have me tear up or bawling.

[–] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Same here. When my grandfather, who I was very close with, passed away, I never cried. But I bawled like a baby at Toy Story 3.

I think it's the soundtrack. If someone had told me about my grandfather while some emotional string music swelled, I probably would have cried.

[–] USSEthernet@startrek.website 5 points 1 day ago

Yea the bagpipes playing Amazing Grace gets me for some reason. If they played that at a funeral I might cry.

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[–] Mac@mander.xyz 13 points 1 day ago

Am 41 y/o dude not that it matters

It does matter because a 41 y/o dude is also allowed to have and express emotions.

[–] zzffyfajzkzhnsweqm@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I do. 25M. For movies, lyrics, stories... Can be most casual things for most people. But I detected some special meaning and I have tears in my eyes. I for some reason got more and more emotional since I was 18. Not sure why though. I hope anyone has some kind of ideas.

I find this strange since I do not consider myself very empatic. And I also consider word empathy cringe since it is often misused to demonize political opponents.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah lyrics is another one I forgot to mention. It’s shocking how many people listen to songs but they don’t listen to the words.

I too am intrigued as to why it seems to have made you more emotional since 18 and hope we get some good responses here.

Interesting that you don’t consider yourself empathetic as I think I have too much at times and it’s a detriment to my own wellbeing.

Sounds like a right freak saying I have too much empathy but I didn’t know how to word it. I guess too much relative to the people I grew up with and my family, that sounds better.

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And books.

If the story and characters are well written and/or acted well enough to pull you in to the story you can certainly feel empathy and other feelings vicariously.

There is plenty of entertainment that does not pull the viewer/reader in, and you don’t particularly get “involved” with them.

I’d be curious what the line is for most people, what draws them in to a story emotionally to make that investment in a fictional character.

[–] Juvyn00b@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago

The older I get, the more I don't give a fuck and just let go. Interstellar - when Cooper is watching messages from his son... Gets me every damn time.

[–] ThisIsNotHim@sopuli.xyz 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I tear up at most movies. It's not a sad movie, but Everything Everywhere All at Once holds the current record for most cries.

Generally if a movie doesn't make me tear up at least once that's a bad sign. At the same time I don't gravitate towards tearjerkers, they can feel emotionally manipulative and heavy handed.

I almost never cry for TV shows or books.

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[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 5 points 1 day ago

I cry watching space rockets launching.

[–] maniel@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Also 41 yo dude here, crying on movies, nah, I cry on books too, not that I'm invested in those fake characters, rather I take their situations as my own, daydreaming about me in their shoes

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[–] LikeTearsInTheRain@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 17 hours ago

Growing up, I'd occasionally tear up over a sad movie.

Now that I'm older, I seek out movies that tend to be depressing and tragic. Watching them alone let's me express a level of empathy or grief that is almost therapeutic. Most mainstream movies that are deemed sad may still only get me to slightly tear up like the past. But I've encountered enough indy or slightly lesser know films that fly under the radar and they make me ugly cry.

Being in a vulnerable mindset kind of helps because there are moments where I could probably fight it mentally and hold back my reaction. But if I allow myself to let go, then it's full on sobbing.

Recent movies that had that effect on me are Drawing Closer, and How to Make Millions Before Grandma Dies.

It's not always empathy, somethings its a personal element where I relate to someone on screen and I use them as a conduit to express the emotions I might normally suppress or stoicly ignore.

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I didn’t for most of my life. Just in the last year, there have been a few movies to just get my tears rolling.

The two recent ones that hit hard were Everything, Everywhere All At Once and of all things, 101 Dalmatians. Just something about the way they’re drawn and the amount of care in every scene made the dogs feel so much more real than modern animation and the sad scenes just cut through.

Few people have said this, I guess it makes sense that you can empathise more as you get older as you’ve experienced more, maybe I don’t know.

I really need to bump everything, everywhere, all at once up my to watch list as I never hear bad things.

Sadly 101 is another I’ve not seen. I’ll add it. Only started watching movies probably a couple of years ago do I’ve got lots of classics to catch up with.

[–] Donebrach@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Me, and yes it’s normal to have an emotional reaction to media. You want a good cry? Watch Violet Evergarden. That shit’ll wreck you.

[–] DasFaultier@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yeah man, all the time, and for the stupidest shit. Everything from children's series to grown-up movies. My wife sometimes side-eyes me for it, but she's not much better herself and usually, when one of us cries the other one joins in. It's become a cute thing between us to catch or make the other one do it first, and I love it. Also, it's a way to teach my little son that it's OK to cry and not a matter of shame. Yes, ugly cry as well. Yes, also in front of others.

For reference I’m a 39 year old dude, not that it matters.

EDIT because I saw it in the thread: Lyrics! I have songs that I can't listen to while driving, because I can't drive while I ugly cry because that wouldn't be safe.

One thing that especially hits me are acts of selflessness, be it in fiction or the actual real world. We have semi-regular floods on the river meat where I live, and I usually try to volunteer to help out with sand barriers. And everytime just seeing all those people coming together in their free time, getting wet and dirty and sweaty and exhausted, not expecting a single thing, just because it's the right thing to do and because apparently we look after one another in this 600k people city... Just typing it out makes me tear up again.

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[–] vantablack@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

works of fiction never made me cry in my previous gender, but ever since i started estrogen it's been neat going back and rewatching my faves and seeing how much harder they hit emotionally now

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[–] Binturong@lemmy.ca 4 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Hey fellow 41 year old dude, I also cry at this stuff. It seems especially pronounced when rewatching nostalgic productions with well written characters and conflict (I will not apologize for crying all the time during Avatar the last Airbender, as an adult man). No, I do not know what this means in regard to healthy emotional processing, it just is what it is. Mind you I also get unjustifiably angry or emotional in other contexts when I feel connected to the fate of a character and they experience injustice. So this might be a general marker for some level of empathy or maybe just emotional mimicry. Thanks for posting, I think this is something people should be okay talking about more.

Edit: I wanted to add this also occurs in other mediums, like video games. Cyberpunk 2077 was like a revolution in awareness for me, but largely because I experience DID to a degree in my life, and it really flipped the table of my understanding of myself seeing what I experience through the eyes of others.

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I cried when Jude Law has had enough of the dystopian society he's forced to live in and checks out forever.

Gattaca: one hell of an unknown movie.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gattaca

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[–] AdmiralRob@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

The film Click always makes me cry. You know, the comedy where Adam Sandler has a magic tv remote? I'm not gonna go into too much detail on which scene; spoiler tags don't seem to work on my Lemmy reader, so I won't know if I'm doing it right. I'm just going to say it's the scene where he has an important message to deliver to his son. Gets me every time.

[–] Kissaki@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago

I do. Not very often, but not super rare either.

It can help when I'm miserable, as a form of emotional release.

Mainly on anime for me, I guess, largely because that's what I watch most. I don't think I've felt that emotional on other film media.

The most recent anime that touched me was Ave Mujica: The Die Is Cast.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Yes, of course it's normal. It's not necessarily the writing; sometimes it's the music or cinematography that'll get you. For me it's often a strong vocal, as a minimum I'll get goosebumps.

[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My memory sucks so can't remember much, but:

The Hunger Games (1) when

Major Spoilers btwRue died and Katniss was honoring her, and did the District 12 salute and the scene cuts to District 11 start doing it, then the whole riot scene and it just reminds me of so much of the injustice and tyranny of the world... I just can't stop crying. I wished we have some of the District 12 - District 11 Solidarity IRL.

I actually remember when, as a kid, I rarely cried about fictional stories, or something even bad events IRL.

But once I go through the existential crisis at 18, I started to actually feel stories, like actually feeling it. I ser deaths, injustice, and tyranny. The "veil of innocence", as I call it, completely shattered. The world isn't beautiful, its hell, its horror.

Its actually when you get older, you understand the stories being told.

[–] 5too@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

I feel like there's a term for it, but I can't recall it now - it seems like after you have kids, emotional impacts in media can also start to hit a lot harder. I'm not sure if there's some empathetic response that tends to get strengthened or what, but my wife and I both have things we either can't watch anymore or don't process the same way. Like, I decided to start rewatching Star Trek: DS9 a few years ago (a year or two into fatherhood) and got wrecked by the scenes in the first episode where the captain relives losing his wife.

[–] runner_g@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago

Totally normal to get emotional about things that resonate with us. I recently rewatches the new d&d movie and cried twice. Found family stories tend to get me.

[–] Toes@ani.social 4 points 19 hours ago

Yeah.

Occasionally I'll come across scenes in an anime that are so out of place but hurt.

[–] TinyLittlePuni@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I cried like a baby watching Titanic and Interstellar. I also cried at the end of WALL*E

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[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)
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[–] JakenVeina@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Me for sure. Every so often, I'll pull something up just for the sake of some tears.

My go-tos include (in no particular order):

  • Avengers: Endgame
  • The Fellowship of the Ring
  • Patch Adams
  • The Deathly Hallows (Part 2)
  • Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood
  • Avatar: The Last Airbender
  • The Owl House
  • House MD (Season 4 finale)

Probably some more I'm not thinking of, at the moment.

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[–] steeznson@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Big Fish in particular got me because my dad is similar to the protagonist's.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

The one scene in Lion King hits harder without James Earl Jones on this planet anymore.

Yes, but very rarely. Most stories just don't affect me that way.

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago

I cry so often when I watch movies. It sometimes feels pathetic 😅

[–] TwistyLex@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 day ago

I'm exactly like you're describing and a little older than you (44). Songs, TV shows, movies, animated series. It's a trivial feat to make me tear up at pretty much anything someone might consider touching.

I suppose it's outside of the statistical norm for our demographic, but I wouldn't say there's anything wrong with it. We feel things and we express those feelings when we have them. I'd argue it's a lot healthier than what the statistical mean of our cohort does.

[–] Typewar@infosec.pub 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't know about you, but I feel sad watching the grass cutter robots just.. cut grass all day. Do you think the robot even wants to do it? The program forces it to cut grass. It's cruel

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Have you seen the Love, Death, and Robots episode Zima Blue?

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[–] raltoid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

While some lie about it or try to deny or even suppress it, most people have at least a few scenes that make them cry.

Pretty sure I could make a few people tear up by just quoting a single line:

Here Lies Philip J. Fry, named for his uncle, to carry on his spirit.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 3 points 1 day ago

bro i cry at chords.

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