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[–] YamahaRevstar@lemmy.world 68 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Someone tell me why this isn't feasible.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 94 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Because externalities of lithium extraction like using aquifers for evaporation ponds and the pollution from the leftover brine aren't included in the cost of new lithium production, thus making less environmentally impactful methods of recovery too expensive to justify.

[–] YamahaRevstar@lemmy.world 34 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 47 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Note that this is not a catch with this recycling process (necessarily, anyway; the article doesn't get into too many specifics) but rather an end-run to make lithium mining and refining appear less awful than it actually is.

Mining new lithium may be "cheaper" in raw dollars and cents provided only you don't include the environmental impact or the costs of dealing with the same as a line item on the invoice.

[–] HowRu68@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

lithium mining and refining appear less awful than it actually is.

So do I undertand you correctly it's just an "eventuality option simulation" to lower the environmental footprint?

Like for example the listed WLTP* Kw/h / fuel consumption of cars in perfect (lab)conditions which never exist?

*Worldwide Harmonised Light Vehicle Test Procedure

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 22 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

It's probably not cheaper than just shooting orphans for sport.

[–] YamahaRevstar@lemmy.world 10 points 7 hours ago

Shooting orphans? In this economy?

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 59 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

You can get lithium from the pharmacy if you act crazy enough. Farm fresh lithium too, not some old phone battery lithium.

[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 43 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

You don't just suck on your old batteries?
Fucking spoiled rich kids and their pharmacy grade lithium...

[–] MeekerThanBeaker@lemmy.world 21 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I prefer 9-Volt. It's shockingly good.

[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 5 points 6 hours ago

Do you have lithium 9 volt blocks or do you only get your zinc and manganese from it?

But it's probably important to take care of all your nutritional needs and different 9 volt batteries could provide you with quite some of that.

Clever thinking!

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Wait until they cut Medicaid. People are going to be gnawing on rechargeable AA batteries like it’s chewing tobacco. Maybe C or even D batteries if they need more OnlyFans subscriptions to make rent. It’s going to be like when N.O.R.E. found out Doja Cat was in racial chat rooms showing feet. People are going to find out their crazy but hot girlfriend ate whole car batteries for 8chan.

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This is the America Ted Cruz wants. Vote for me and I will make sure Doja Cat gets the purest lithium.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 10 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

what the aneurism did I just read

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

There was a time when I didn’t know what those words meant either and I strongly encourage blissful ignorance over doing research only to come away more ignorant. Every time you don’t know what something on the Internet means, read a scientific paper or another few pages of Tolstoy or visit a museum. You’ll be a happier, healthier person.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

You aren't kidding in the slightest. I started down the path of DOJA cat in racist chats and Jesus fuck that went off the rails real fast.

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Alright alright alright, what the fuck are you guys getting into?

Gimme the links

[–] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I'm so happy, cos today I found this thread

[–] RizzoTheSmall@lemm.ee 4 points 6 hours ago

It's in my fed

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 4 points 7 hours ago

I get mine from track 5 of Nevermind

[–] antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago

There’s probably a lot that could be recovered from my urine. Fun fact when phosphorus was first discovered they had to boil off gallons of urine to get a useful amount, so they collected barrels of urine from mining camps.

[–] fubarx@lemmy.world 15 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

This shows how one company (li-cycle) that claims they recycle 95% of the lithium does it: https://youtu.be/s2xrarUWVRQ

99.99% doesn't seem too far-fetched.

[–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

When refining a process, it becomes exponentially more difficult and expensive the closer you get to 100% efficiency. 0-95% costs less than 95-99%, which costs less than 99%-99.99%