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Telegram and xAI agreed a one-year deal to integrate Grok into the chat app; Telegram will get $300M in cash and equity from xAI and 50% of subscription revenue. (programming.dev)

submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by Pro@programming.dev to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 157 points 1 week ago (14 children)

You should be using Signal anyway.

[–] doodledup@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I think Telegram is more of a social media than a messenger.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (6 children)

What, like Instagram kind of thing?

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Not really. It just group chats and some are used as news feeds.

Its one of those terrible UX where people force a tool to do something it's not supposed to like Discord for forums etc.

Its basically used for piracy and drug markets for tech illiterate but somehow caught on.

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[–] BlackEco@lemmy.blackeco.com 96 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Telegram are being paid by xAI to use their product? Isn't it supposed to be the other way around?

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 63 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm guessing the money flows in this direction because telegram actually has users.

[–] zecg@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The users must ask themselves if they're the product, fucking Musk is paying for access to them.

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[–] jnod4@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Having xAI accessing a billion of users conversations? They are going to have the most "educated" LLM. Also isn't xAI getting subsidies from the government? Literalły workers of America are paying to spy, again

[–] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

The funny thing is, half of Telegram is drugs, conspiracy nuts and really weird humour. The ai is going to be great, I can already see it.

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[–] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 63 points 1 week ago (3 children)

So you’re telling me that Grok is so bad that they have to pay developers to integrate it? How backwards. People are willing to pay for Grok’s competitors.

[–] mcv@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Or is xAI paying for access to Telegram conversations to train Grok?

[–] UnculturedSwine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is the reason. Telegram has data and users that can be fed to the AI and they know it. Grok is hungry.

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[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 63 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Telegram ASTOUNDS me.

Like, there's been several instances of them outwardly admitting that their security sucks, not to use it for encrypted chats, that they just give logs away to world governments, and yet thousands of crypto bros and bots use telegram to function, EVEN ZLIBRARY, who could just as easily set up and use Matrix, has a Telegram bot for downloading books.

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[–] match@pawb.social 60 points 1 week ago (3 children)

good news! signal has sticker packs

[–] Fitik@fedia.io 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If only any of my friends would have it.. I have a lot of contacts on telegram, and on signal there's like 1. Even my furry friends are not on there

There are some active chats on matrix, but I don't know why on signal

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[–] tahoe@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I tried to switch to Signal but it feels so damn barren compared to Telegram :(

I want to love it but they make it hard

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[–] YesButActuallyMaybe@lemmy.ca 52 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There goes my telegram account. Bye, you won’t be missed

[–] NotKyloRen@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't know why people stuck with it. I've used it; I get that a lot of the initial success/hype was:

It's not owned by Meta
"Putin hates Durov!"
"Unlimited" storage (lots of people using it as free cloud storage, which is dumb if you value your files)

But your messages are not E2EE by default (only "Secret Chats", which aren't synced across devices)...Telegram (the organization) could always read your messages. I said this so many times and got called everything under the sun.

"Why would they care about my messages though?" ------> Because $300 Million.

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[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Whelp. Same thought :(

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 45 points 1 week ago (3 children)

So, a software that is owned by US politician is working together with software that has links to Russian government?

[–] Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 week ago

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Federal government threatened Telegram and demanded a backdoor a while back, iirc.

[–] KumaSudosa@feddit.dk 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You misunderstand. Elon is retired from US politics now, obviously, and will return to being a force of good!

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[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 40 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There doesn’t seem to be any such thing as “good” AI, but there’s definitely a “worst” one, and Telegram chose it. Nice job, assholes.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 16 points 1 week ago

Well the other ones you have to pay for. This one pays you!

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 1 week ago

great advertisement for signal

[–] whereisk@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

Wondering how long has this been cooking? A year or so ago musk started attacking signal for no discernible reason and recommending telegram instead.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Two insane billionaire eugenicists … working together? No way. Birds of like feather stick together.

[–] ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 week ago

now telegram is going to insert random information about South African White genocide to every conversation. or it will be in every recommended reply at least.

[–] yumyumsmuncher@feddit.uk 21 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Gross. So glad I deleted it and moved to Signal

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Matrix (Element etc...)
XMPP
Session
SimpleX
Signal
GNU-Jami
Briar

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[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If anybody still believed in Telegram's trustworthiness, it should now be dispelled.

(Only kidding, there's plenty of people who still "believe" in both Durov and Musk)

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[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 19 points 1 week ago

Big yikes

[–] kazerniel@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

ew wtf, Telegram has been one of the less shittified ones :c

[–] Blemgo@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Honestly, Telegramm always seemed to me a bit shifty since I learnt E2EE for chats was opt-in.

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[–] talos_the_true_god@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago

Nail no.1 in the coffin for me was when this Durov guy sent an unsolicited telegram-wide message on election day in my country, claiming French interference in our elections.

This is nail no.2 in the coffin.

Guess I’ll get off my lazy arse and delete my telegram account now

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 17 points 1 week ago

I’m so glad I don’t use telegram.

[–] mwguy@infosec.pub 14 points 1 week ago (4 children)

What is the fediverse chat equivalent?

[–] Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago (5 children)

If you want something more like the fediverse itself, then Matrix. If you want something closer to Telegram out of the box without setup, then Signal or SimpleX.

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[–] maki@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Can this be a joke pleaseeeee ?

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[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How many people pressed the play button in the image. I know I did.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

"Eat moar AI! EAT IT!! EAT the AI you peasants!"

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 week ago

Im glad the EU started early with sanctioning Telegram, it will make things easier now. This is just a blatant attempt at enforcing Russian political influence.

[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I only use telegram to buy illegal iptv subscriptions. Is there a reason I would ever need grok in there?

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