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For example: I don't believe in the axiom of choice nor in the continuum hypothesis.

Not stuff like "math is useless" or "people hate math because it's not well taught", those are opinions about math.

I'll start: exponentiation should be left-associative, which means a^b should mean b×b×...×b } a times.

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[–] JASN_DE@feddit.org 32 points 5 days ago

I'll start: exponentiation should be left-associative, which means a^b should mean b×b×...×b } a times.

Interesting. Why?

[–] Jagger2097@lemmy.world 25 points 5 days ago

Everyone keeps talking about pi r²

This doesn't make any sense because pies are round. Brownies are square

[–] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Mixed numbers fraction syntax [1] is the dumbest funking thing ever. Juxtaposition of a number in front of any expression implies multiplication! Addition? Fucking addition? What the fuck is wrong with you?

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraction#Mixed_numbers

[–] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.ee 6 points 4 days ago

Amen. Pick a lane either they're both additive or multiplicative. Maybe a different symbol.

[–] DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 3 points 4 days ago

I have never made that connection before but I think you're 100% right!

[–] Prime@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 4 days ago
[–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 8 points 5 days ago

Some of the more complex proofs might be wrong just because so few understand them, and the ones who do might have made mistakes.

Hell, I’ll trust a math result much more if it’s backed up by empirical evidence from eg. engineering or physics.

Don’t know if that counts as being ”in math” by OPs definition.

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

“Terryology may have some merits and deserves consideration.”

I don’t hold this opinion, but I can guarantee you it’s unpopular.

[–] Ad4mWayn3@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago

Who did ever say that? Not a single article that I've read about Terryology has praised it. I guess the Joe Rogan podcast helped it gather some followers?

I believe that the polar plot of prime numbers that reveals spirals and rays and when extended out to millions of numbers shows deeper fractals and geometric patterns is a glimpse into the structure of something we haven't yet discovered.

Maybe it's the higher dimensional structure of a photon, maybe it's something we don't even know about, but the fact that math describes everything in our universe EXCEPT prime numbers sounds like nonsense. There's something staring us right in the face that we can't see yet.

[–] Nemo@slrpnk.net 3 points 5 days ago

Most real-world phenomena would be better represented as regular Directed Graphs than Directed Acyclic Graphs, even ones that are traditionally abstracted as DAGs.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 days ago

P vs NP can be solved, and is within P. Good luck proving it though, I'm not smart enough

[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)
  1. I have this odd, perhaps part troll, feeling that there are two, and only two, roots of the Riemann Zeta function that aren't on the critical line, and are instead mirrors of each other at either side of it, like some weird pair of complex conjugates. Further, while I really want their real parts to be 1/4 and 3/4, the actual variance from 1/2 will be some inexplicable irrational number.

  2. Multiplication order in current mathematics standards should happen the other way around when it's in a non-commutative algebra. I think this because transfinite multiplication apparently requires the transfinite part to go before any finite part to prevent collapse of meaning. For example, we can't write 2ω for the next transfinite ordinal because 2ω is just ω again on account of transfinite and backwards multiplication weirdness, and we have to write ω·2 or ω×2 instead like we're back at primary school.

[–] Ad4mWayn3@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago

Multiplication order in current mathematics standards should happen the other way around when it’s in a non-commutative algebra.

The good thing about multiplication being commutative and associative is that you can think about it either way (e.g. 3x2 can be thought of as "add two three times). The "benefit" of carrying this idea to higher-order operations is that they become left-associative (meaning they can be evaluated from left to right), which is slightly more intuitive. For instance in lambda calculus, a sequence of church numerals n~1~ n~2~ ... n~K~ mean n~K~ ^ n~K-1~ ^ ... ^ n~1~ in traditional notation.

For example, we can’t write 2ω for the next transfinite ordinal because 2ω is just ω again on account of transfinite and backwards multiplication weirdness, and we have to write ω·2 or ω×2 instead like we’re back at primary school.

I'd say the deeper issue with ordinal arithmetic is that Knuth's up-arrow notation with its recursive definition becomes useless to define ordinals bigger than ε~0~, because something like ω^(ω^^ω) = ω^ε0^ = ε~0~. I don't understand the exact notion deeply yet, but I suspect there's some guilt in the fact that hyperoperations are fundamentally right-associative.

[–] LettyWhiterock@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

1 should be a prime number.

[–] Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It was once, but got kicked out due to new discoveries and equations I'm not smart/mathematically trained enough to understand.

[–] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 3 days ago

I prefer the term "got Ceresed", but yes. That's happened.

[–] Prime@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 days ago

Matrix multiplication should be the other way around, i.e. not like cascading functions. Oh and function cabbages should also be the other way around :) i prefer to read it not like a manga