this post was submitted on 10 Mar 2025
94 points (85.6% liked)

Casual Conversation

2585 readers
512 users here now

Share a story, ask a question, or start a conversation about (almost) anything you desire. Maybe you'll make some friends in the process.


RULES (updated 01/22/25)

  1. Be respectful: no harassment, hate speech, bigotry, and/or trolling. To be concise, disrespect is defined by escalation.
  2. Encourage conversation in your OP. This means including heavily implicative subject matter when you can and also engaging in your thread when possible. You won't be punished for trying.
  3. Avoid controversial topics (politics or societal debates come to mind, though we are not saying not to talk about anything that resembles these). There's a guide in the protocol book offered as a mod model that can be used for that; it's vague until you realize it was made for things like the rule in question. At least four purple answers must apply to a "controversial" message for it to be allowed.
  4. Keep it clean and SFW: No illegal content or anything gross and inappropriate. A rule of thumb is if a recording of a conversation put on another platform would get someone a COPPA violation response, that exact exchange should be avoided when possible.
  5. No solicitation such as ads, promotional content, spam, surveys etc. The chart redirected to above applies to spam material as well, which is one of the reasons its wording is vague, as it applies to a few things. Again, a "spammy" message must be applicable to four purple answers before it's allowed.
  6. Respect privacy as well as truth: Don’t ask for or share any personal information or slander anyone. A rule of thumb is if something is enough info to go by that it "would be a copyright violation if the info was art" as another group put it, or that it alone can be used to narrow someone down to 150 physical humans (Dunbar's Number) or less, it's considered an excess breach of privacy. Slander is defined by intentional utilitarian misguidance at the expense (positive or negative) of a sentient entity. This often links back to or mixes with rule one, which implies, for example, that even something that is true can still amount to what slander is trying to achieve, and that will be looked down upon.

Casual conversation communities:

Related discussion-focused communities

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

I haven't used a clock in years that I need to manually reset. Older people don't seem to realize clocks on phones and other devices reset automatically.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] running_ragged@lemmy.world 107 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Had to reset the clock on my stove, microwave, coffee maker, and cars.

It’s no where near obsolete as you seem to imply.

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

Stove, microwave, and two battery-operated dial clocks here. I didn't go anywhere today, so I'll find out in the morning if the car needs it. I honestly don't remember. The Rice cooker just cycled back to correct. :-)

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Here in germany i think there's a radio signal being transmitted on a dedicated frequency that does nothing but distribute the current time information to digital devices. It's really useful!

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 15 points 23 hours ago

It's everywhere, but not all devices have the radio

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 8 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

That's existed since at least the 60's, maybe even earlier.

And electric clocks used to get their timing from the frequency of the electrical system, and power companies would compensate for any daily variations by changing the frequency over night so any timing systems would be back in sync.

Commercial buildings often used these kinds of clocks.

Are you sure you're talking about the same thing as me? Sounds like devices use the 50/60 Hz grid frequency instead of an internal resonator/frequency generator to count forward the seconds. But it doesn't tell the device "what time is it now" when you first switch it on.

[–] running_ragged@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Huh. That does sound pretty damn useful.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DCF77

Id never even heard of it in Canada.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 8 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] xorollo@leminal.space 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 8 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] jonne@infosec.pub 3 points 22 hours ago

Most of us don't bother with that. The only clock I manually change is the one on my car. The other appliances are always blinking 00:00 from whenever the last power outage was.

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 2 points 23 hours ago

Mostly all of those too, except my cars. My cars grab their time info from GPS and update automatically. Have for the past few cars I’ve had, but they’ve all been German.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 2 points 12 hours ago

My stove did need setting, but my 84 yo father in law’s car did set itself.

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 34 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (3 children)

You don't have a car, oven, or microwave that isn't internet connected?

This is the worst timeline

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 32 points 22 hours ago

Older people don’t seem to realize clocks on phones and other devices reset automatically.

That's not it.

In times before there were things like cell phones and auto updating clocks, people would use the upcoming change as a conversational item to interact with each other socially about.

Kind of like how people sometimes talk about the upcoming weather.

~This~ ~comment~ ~is~ ~licensed~ ~under~ ~CC~ ~BY-NC-SA~ ~4.0~

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I remember back when clocks were essentially sticks in the ground, you had to manually drag the sun across the sky by a few degrees to change the time. Those were the days, twice a year.

pepperidge farm remembers

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] 11111one11111@lemmy.world 18 points 21 hours ago (7 children)

The real conversation is why the fucking fuck are we still doing the time change shit??? Push your local representative to get their head out of their ass and vote to stop day light savings bullshit. I thought it was passed already and waiting to be instilled but apparently I was wrong and the fucking bill is still stuck in congress.

load more comments (7 replies)
[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 15 points 21 hours ago

My cellphone changes automatically and so does the alarm clock that we never use. But the stove, microwave, decorative clock, and thermostat all need to be changed manually. And I still have a VCR and know how to set the time on it but it doesn't update automatically.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All the clocks in my house became correct today. You think I'm changing them twice a year when I can just subtract one??

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 6 points 23 hours ago

my only manually-set clock is correct again. well, it's off 12 hours and flashes but the numbers are right.

power went out for a few seconds a number of years ago at exactly 12noon (they switched over some equipment or something; a planned event). never bothered to 'set' the time since i don't use its alarm anymore anyway.

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 13 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

My “smart” microwave lets me sync time from my phone on demand, but can’t support ntp. Thanks, LG.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 6 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

it will truly be a great day for humanity when our smart microwave can display accurate time derived from literally differences in things travelling the speed of light and atomic decay with redundant backups and systems designed to withstand nuclear war

a great day indeed

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

The best feature from my new microwave was the ability to turn off both the standby clock and the beeping. Revolutionary.

Sidenote: I hope someone manages to work out what protocol LG uses, so you can have your microwave continuously display time 13:37 or something else dumb lol

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 13 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

clocks on phones and other devices reset automatically.

Fun fact, once my country decided to end daylight savings abruptly, and apparently propagating this info to phones isn't exactly trivial?
So on the day they would start, some phones jumped 1 hour forward, some didn't, seemingly randomly. That was a fun one.
I've stopped trusting automatic time adjustments since then.

[–] larks@lemm.ee 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Most likely a software update should've arrived from your phone's OS vendor, to update the machanism that automatically changes the hour per a specific country/region. My guess is those phones that continued to switch to DST never got the update.

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, I suppose the issue lies with the fact that something like this shouldn't be tied to OS updates, specially in Android land where most manufacturers stop offering them long before the devices become obsolete.

[–] larks@lemm.ee 4 points 13 hours ago

Indeed, but it is a bit hard to disable DST without some sort of "intervention" from the manufacturer. The code to change DST is already in the phone, at the time when you buy. And let's assume at a later time, a country decides to abandon DST. The code in your phone needs to be altered by the manufacturer to disable this. Which happens via updates

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] TiggerYumYum@lemm.ee 11 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Younger people always remind me that they are young. I have used many clocks over many years that I need to manually reset. Younger people don't seem to realize that most people have appliances they don't want to connect to the internet.

Very silly.

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

i do similarly, i remind people this is nonsense and we shouldn't be changing ours clocks automatically or otherwise twice a year

[–] thisismyhaendel@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Haha I almost 100% agree. Alas I do have a stove and microwave clock that requires resetting but it’s kind of hilariously obvious that I need to update them each time. I come into the kitchen and think “oh yeah…” :D

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

I'm 42 years old, and I have a fairly new watch, a Casio WS-1300H. Made in like 2022 I think. It's not smart, if anything it's just as dumb as a watch from 30 years ago.

But it runs on a button cell battery, said to have a battery life of like 10 years, as long as you don't use the backlight too often.

Yes, I had to manually change the option for Daylight Savings Time, but they make it really easy to do, it's all in the manual.

https://www.casio.com/za/watches/casio/product.WS-1300H-8AV/

[–] Alice@beehaw.org 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

You don't have any clocks in your house or your car? Not even on your microwave?

I guess I don't have any self control. I'm horrible for scrolling on my phone all day. If I needed it to know what time it is, or had to keep it in the bedroom to use as an alarm clock, I'd be toast.

[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

No house clocks and I don't drive

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 6 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

And you think old people are the outlier when you don't have an oven or a microwave? No thermostat with a timer?

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 hours ago

I have a digital watch and a stove clock and microwave clock.

[–] TheMagicRat@lemm.ee 6 points 18 hours ago

There was a period of time when some devices did the change automatically, while others needed you to manually do it. Given that you could be late for something important, it makes sense to check whether your devices are up to date. For example, my phone will change it on its own, but my fitness tracker needs to sync with my phone to do it, so it would be easy to forget and find myself running to a late appointment.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

My doctor is younger than me, and she wouldn't shut up about needing to change the clocks.

[–] ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

My car has two clocks and one automatically changes (I assume CarPlay) and the other has a setting that turn dst on or off.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 4 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

My car's clock needs manual resetting, so does my old radio alarm that turns on NPR in the morning. Coffeemaker, microwave, and oven all have clocks, and the wall clock of course. Most of these, I never use as a precise time reference, because they run slow or fast. They're more for timing food or laundry, or counting the seconds while I grind coffee.... Except one day I will glance and think I have a lot more time than I really do, so best to make sure they are at least close to correct.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago (5 children)

My car clock needs moving still, and it's slower because it's analogue for some reason

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Even Doc Brown had to change the clock in his car.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] AidsKitty@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago (8 children)

For older people it was seen as friendly and polite to remind others to change their clocks for daylight savings time. Alot of them probably dont have phones. I grew up pre-internet and the world was a much better place.

load more comments (8 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›