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An Irish woman who has lived legally in the US for four decades has been detained by immigration officials for the last week because of a criminal record dating back almost 20 years.

Cliona Ward, 54, was detained at San Francisco airport on 21 April after returning from Ireland to visit her sick father and is being held at an Immigration and Customs Enforcement (Ice) facility in Tacoma, Washington.

Ward holds a green card but has convictions for drug possession from 2007 and 2008, which she believed had been expunged, her family said.

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[–] AshMan85@lemmy.world 99 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Catholics are not considered white to the white supremacist

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 47 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Considering the US is going back to the 1800s, no better time to start treating the Irish like shit again.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

MAGA will decide they want to deport Irish-Americans. Ireland will respond by saying they don't let people claim residency that many generations back. MAGA will piss and moan. Eventually they will make a deal with the UK government. The UK government will build a large prison camp in Northern Ireland, right near the border with the Republic of Ireland. Irish Americans will be banished to the camp, in direct line of site from ROI land, until such time as ROI willingly accepts them in as refugees.

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[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 45 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The Irish were not considered white until around 1930 or so. When the demographic shifts in the US required we be white in order to stave off the dreaded brown folk. The old bigot who lived next door to me growing up called me a tater tot until her dying day. I remember my grandfather talking about how one day he had bankers basically offering him a loan. Up until that point he was treated like shit at the bank.

Just go to http://www.rsdb.org/search?q=Irish

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The old bigot who lived next door to me growing up called me a tater tot

Prick. I heard two young American girls refer to the Irish as potatoes, in Dublin. They thought nobody could hear them then were properly embarrassed when they saw me.

[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The English were directly responsible for killing a million Irish people. They get hate for it, but not enough.

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[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 68 points 3 days ago (1 children)

“I bet she has tattoos!”

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 38 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'd be willing to bet the universal common denominator for anyone who isn't brown is simply that they're antifascist.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Gotta say "antifa" (ann-TEE-fuh) so it sounds like a bad thing. Like an exotic gang, like al Qaeda or something. That way, normal people think antifa is the enemy, and in doing so, they support fascism without even knowing it.

Naming and pronunciation are key. They got half of America terrified of a fucking train halfway across the world.

[–] Senal@programming.dev 9 points 3 days ago

Same reasoning behind using DEI instead of the actual words that acronym represents.

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[–] BenLeMan@lemmy.world 56 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Just wait until they figure out where Kash Patel is "really" from. Bet you the crocodile tears will run like rivers.

[–] Burninator05@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No, it's ok. He's one of the good ones. /s

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[–] BenjiRenji@feddit.org 51 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Wait.. why would they detain her let alone deport? She has legal residency.

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 73 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well it’s simple really—because the fascists decree it to be so.

[–] BenjiRenji@feddit.org 26 points 3 days ago (4 children)

This makes residency permits completely worthless. Greencard holders other visa holders can all just be randomly detained when traveling.

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)

US Citizens have been getting deported, we're far past that already.

[–] BenjiRenji@feddit.org 5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

These were all minors of deported parents no? At least there's a bad reason for it.

[–] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Tbf this was also a bad reason to detain this woman. They'll expand it to native-born American criminals, and then """criminals."""

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[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 days ago

They've also "deported" (exiled is a better word) actual citizens. Someone on a green card has less protection than that.

[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 days ago

They have quotas to fill. Makes sense for them to pick these low-hanging fruits.

[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If she believed the drug charges were expunged and they were not, then she likely filled out the wrong immigration form and was granted residency because she "lied" on a government immigration document.

With a drug charge she very likely would not have been approved for residency. But this also means it's an oversight by USCIS, because the applicants criminal history should have been reviewed at the time of her application.

Something isn't adding up here.

[–] 10001110101@lemm.ee 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

There was a story a couple weeks ago about another person getting deported on expunged charges. I'm guessing some agencies still keep records after expungement (I've heard they still show up when getting security clearance), and they're using that data.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 7 points 2 days ago

My bet is on it was expunged and this is them just using arrest records to justify bullshit. Now they will call her a CRIMINAL and anything they do is fine, as she is a dirty criminal.

The really really scary part is that they can arrest someone now on trumped up charges (like a judge that rules kidnapping is bad) then later "deport" them do to past arrests.

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[–] Rozz@lemmy.sdf.org 40 points 3 days ago (3 children)

But she's white!? (Sort of /s)

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 86 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I guess the Irish and Italians aren't white any more. We're getting closer to pinning down the time period where America was 'great'.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 3 days ago (4 children)

As a Jewish person, I think I can see where this is going

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Going? We've already arrived.

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[–] CouncilOfFriends@slrpnk.net 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I expect proving that you own some of Trump's memecoin will be the only way to avoid deportation soon. The god emperor can forgive any sin if you kiss the ring

[–] thefactremains@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)
[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

More like mark of the hambeast.

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[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I have a close friend from Venezuela, who was a warded citizenship on December, so she thinks she's safe. I'm keeping quiet, because I don't want to scare her, but Venezuelans, who used to enjoy a special immigration privileges in America because their country was being led by a rogue dictator, has become one of the most demonized groups in America.

The MAGA Nazis don't respect anything, and having a green card or even citizenship isn't going to save anyone. They want to deport people who were actually BORN here, they definitely want to kick out every person that was born elsewhere.

[–] grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 2 days ago

My friend, also naturalized and from Venezuela, knows he's not safe. We've talked. It sucks.

[–] Ton@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It would be hilarious to see this regime shooting itself in both feet before shooting itself in the head, if this weren't some route to a full-blown 'eMerGENcy' which they can then use to deactivate democracy all together.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

C'mon let this establish precedent so I can get 'deported' to the home country after 150 years.

Also, why did she get sent across the country from San Fran to the SeaTac area? Is Washington acting like the Louisiana of the West Coast, what the fuck?

[–] LordGimp@lemm.ee 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Where exactly are you coming up with the idea that San Francisco California and Tacoma Washington are "across the country" from one another?

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago

The 800 miles of separation North-South.

[–] ericatty@infosec.pub 10 points 3 days ago

We are a big country and Florida Keys to Maine is about 1800 miles, Wilmington NC to Barstow CA is about 2500 miles

Seems like up and down should count too sometimes. But we need a better word than across, especially if it can't be safely driven in a single day by a single driver without stopping to sleep.

(San Fran to SeaTac is about 800 miles)

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