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[–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 300 points 1 week ago (3 children)

That's why I bake my cake at 2608°C for ~1,8 minutes, it just works™

[–] alykanas@slrpnk.net 171 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Project Manager here, and where I’m from it’s common knowledge that 9 women can have a baby in a month .

[–] isaaclyman@lemmy.world 53 points 1 week ago

Or!—hear me out—one woman whose 8 co-gestators were just laid off by someone who doesn’t understand what their job was

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[–] Dindonmasker@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Burnt crust full of liquid cake. yum!

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[–] oakey66@lemmy.world 185 points 1 week ago (8 children)

AGI is not in reach. We need to stop this incessant parroting from tech companies. LLMs are stochastic parrots. They guess the next word. There's no thought or reasoning. They don't understand inputs. They mimic human speech. They're not presenting anything meaningful.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 54 points 1 week ago (12 children)

I feel like I have found a lone voice of sanity in a jungle of brainless fanpeople sucking up the snake oil and pretending LLMs are AI. A simple control loop is closer to AI than a stochastic parrot, as you correctly put it.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There are at least three of us.

I am worried what happens when the bubble finally pops because shit always rolls downhill and most of us are at the bottom of the hill.

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[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (3 children)

That undersells them slightly.

LLMs are powerful tools for generating text that looks like something. Need something rephrased in a different style? They're good at that. Need something summarized? They can do that, too. Need a question answered? No can do.

LLMs can't generate answers to questions. They can only generate text that looks like answers to questions. Often enough that answer is even correct, though usually suboptimal. But they'll also happily generate complete bullshit answers and to them there's no difference to a real answer.

They're text transformers marketed as general problem solvers because a) the market for text transformers isn't that big and b) general problem solvers is what AI researchers are always trying to create. They have their use cases but certainly not ones worth the kind of spending they get.

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[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 176 points 1 week ago (1 children)

lol, because if they work 40-hour weeks they might create it a couple of weeks later

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 92 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Or, worse, they might actually have to hire enough people to actually do the job. Why hire 100 people with good work life balance, when you can hire 60 people that aren't allowed to have lives or families.

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[–] schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business 129 points 1 week ago (3 children)

"Work 50% longer weeks so you can make something that'll both make me richer AND cost you your jobs!" is not the motivational speech he thinks it is.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't even know what AGI is, and I read the headline as "rich disconnected from reality asshole".

Turns out I was right.

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[–] 3dmvr@lemm.ee 67 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If it can be reached in 60 hour work weeks it can be reached in 40, but nah mfs should rush to get themselves replaced

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If it can be reached in 60 hour work weeks, then it can be reached in 40 hour work weeks be hiring a second person.

If management isn't willing to put the effort in of hiring the required staff, why would I want to work the job of 2 people for 1 persons pay?

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 65 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If it's within reach of a 60 hour week then it's within reach of a 30 hour week.

This LLM copycat bullshit is never going to be it though. It's not thinking, it's looking up the answers at the back of the book.

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[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 62 points 1 week ago (2 children)

lol no way AGI is within reach. He is just trying to hype investors. Bet he has a scheduled stock sale soon.

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[–] Obelix@feddit.org 62 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Just for information: We know, from multiple studies, that working more than 40 hours a week for longer periods of time is extremly unhealthy for you. A week has 24*7 = 168 hours and you should sleep 8 hours. That are 56 hours and if you're working 60 hours, that leaves you with 52 hours or 7,5 hours per day for stuff like "commuting to work", "buying groceries", "brushing your teeth" , "family", "friends", "sport" or "this important appointment at the dentist".

And that 7,5 hours are without a weekend. This will kill you. You might be younger and feel strong, but this will kill you.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Not to mention that it doesn't yield higher output. So it's stupid on every level.

7,5h per day is an absolute maximum for a standard workday. Crunches are sometimes fine if there's a good reason, but they probably need to be followed by extended rest.

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[–] Chozo@fedia.io 61 points 1 week ago

"Man who works 10 hours per year tells underlings to work 60 hours per week."

[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 59 points 1 week ago

This is almost too depressing to be funny.

[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 58 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He can fuck all the way off.

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[–] 7rokhym@lemmy.ca 55 points 1 week ago

Thought this was an Onion article!

Hey plebs! I demand you work 50% more to develop AGI so that I can replace you with robots and fire all of you and make myself a double plus plutocrat! Also, I want to buy an island, small city, Bunker, Spaceship, And/Or something.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I’m really getting sick and tired of these rich fuckers saying shit like this.

  1. we are no where close to AGI given this current technology.

  2. working 50% longer is not going to make a bit of difference for AGI

  3. and even if it would matter, hire 50% more people

The only thing this is going to accomplish is likely make him wealthier. So fuck him.

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[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 50 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you need 50% more person-hours, hire 50% more people.

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[–] psyklax@lemmy.dbzer0.com 50 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What if they just work 30 hour weeks for twice as many weeks?

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

More like 10-20% more weeks. It turns out people get less productive the more hours they work.

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[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 46 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Let's work 20 hour weeks then. Who wants AGI other than war pigs and billionaires?

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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 42 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Or just hire 50% more engineers? Or wait 50% longer?

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

If it's in reach working 60 hour weeks, it's also in reach working 40 hour weeks, it will just take 1/3rd longer. ;)

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Let's be real, it'll probably happen faster on 40 hour work weeks than 60.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

lots of evidence starting to point to it'd be quicker in 32 hour weeks than 40

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[–] axh@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago

Yup... Work your ass off guys, so we can fire you sooner! Great deal.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I bet Sergey Brin doesn't even work half that.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Or you could hire 50% more employees for the holy grail of having more wealth than any other company ever after this program.

But even for something this big (that, incidentally will end humanity) they are too scrooge to even pay their employees a normal wage for normal hours

Fuck these assholes, burn in hell

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Or if you hire more personnel. Overtime work is more expensive anyway.

Btw, the overwhelmingly positive field study in the UK over the 4-day week...

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

no no, he means free overtime. Like a reverse "20% policy"

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[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 34 points 1 week ago (3 children)

We can make the AI slave, we just need the humans to be more slave-like to do it.

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[–] antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 week ago (17 children)

AGI requires a few key components that no LLM is even close to.

First, it must be able to discern truth based on evidence, rather than guessing it. Can’t just throw more data at it, especially with the garbage being pumped out these days.

Second, it must ask questions in the pursuit of knowledge, especially when truth is ambiguous. Once that knowledge is found, it needs to improve itself, pruning outdated and erroneous information.

Third, it would need free will. And that’s the one it will never get, I hope. Free will is a necessary part of intelligent consciousness. I know there are some who argue it does not exist but they’re wrong.

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[–] grean@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So this is how you use AI to get these promised productivity gains.

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[–] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (4 children)

They talk about AGI like it's some kind of intrinsically benevolent messiah that is going to come along and free humanity of limitations rather than a product that is going to be monetised to make a few very rich people even richer

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[–] shortrounddev@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

Who gives a fuck what Sergey brin thinks

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (3 children)
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[–] vane@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

When exactly was this pivotal moment when Google became a cult not a company ?

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[–] aramis87@fedia.io 24 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Or, y'know, he could hire 50% more programmers / contractors, instead of overworking his current staff

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[–] drathvedro@lemm.ee 23 points 1 week ago

Oh shit, here we go again. Time to short alphabet stock until they bury all that AI garbage like the rest of it.

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They warn us about AGI while simultaneously attempting to sell it to us.

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[–] satans_methpipe@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

Just a few more hours bro.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

"Work 60 hour weeks."

Sure, if we get paid the same as you.

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[–] jinarched@lemm.ee 20 points 1 week ago

I don't believe a single word of this bullshit.

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