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A senior executive at the Social Security Administration was physically dragged from his office this week after clashing with DOGE, according to The Washington Post.

Greg Pearre, a career civil servant who led an IT team working on the agency’s data systems, was removed over his opposition to a DOGE plan to cut off immigrants from key financial services, three people told the Post.

The scheme cooked up by Elon Musk’s DOGE squad falsely lists thousands of migrants as dead in a Social Security database known as the “death master file.”

Being entered into the death database cuts a person off from crucial financial services, like the ability to receive government benefits and access a bank account or credit card.

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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 230 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Sounds like a great lawsuit.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 73 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I understand they’re handing out pardons like candy these days.

[–] astronaut_sloth@mander.xyz 95 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Can't pardon a lawsuit. Lawsuits are civil; pardons are for criminal cases. Those staffers could be bankrupted, which would be hilarious.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

Elon will just pay the settlement for them with $DOGE or $TRUMP. Monetary punishment is not a deterrent for anyone in the current administration.

[–] AcidicBasicGlitch@lemm.ee 50 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Doesn't mean people shouldn't still sue and bleed that fuck dry like he's bleeding everyone else.

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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 18 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

We just pardoned a corporation.

[–] astronaut_sloth@mander.xyz 19 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Correct. For criminal acts. As Mitt Romney said, "Corporations are people, my friend." (Yes, I know corporate personhood makes no sense, but this is the messed up world we live in.)

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[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Christ, first it was politely holding up paddles, now it's a fucking lawsuit

We are BEYOND all that shit my dudes.

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[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 179 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This guy fought harder than our democratic leaders.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 35 points 2 weeks ago

LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 174 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

The Daily Beast is really burying the actual story with that headline. The article is about Musk declaring alive people “dead” in a federal database. A database that is referenced by the whole world.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

Possibly because that story's already been out for a few days

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 172 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Fun fact, this is "assault" and the guy has a wonderful civil case.

Fun fact #2: civil cases are not criminal cases and are not subject to pardons.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Fun fact #3: If he sues he will be thrown in prison

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[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Civil cases against government officers are however subject to qualified immunity while ones against the government are subject to sovereign immunity.

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

DOGE isn't a real government entity, Big Balls isn't on the US payroll and neither is the founder of Airbnb.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Believe it or not, the nebulous nature of the department actually is what makes them more likely to have qualified immunity because their role hasn't been "clearly established" by case law. You couldn't even talk say what "actions as a part of their duties" are. I'm not a fan of qualified immunity.

As far as suing the government over what DOGE does, good luck figuring out where an agency deputized by executive order fits in here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Tort_Claims_Act

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 105 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Eventually someone is going to shoot some DOGE agents dead and I won't be mad.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 63 points 2 weeks ago

He who saves his Country does not violate any Law

Not guilty

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 37 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It should have happened at the beginning, when they first showed up, and started making demands in the lobby. They were an unauthorized force of illegal pirates, trying to access classified systems. They should have been gunned down the moment they tried to force their way past the front desk.

Then they "authorized" their existence, and now they have authority to go anywhere they want.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 94 points 2 weeks ago (14 children)
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[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 76 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

If anyone, especially someone for DOGE, makes physical contact with me in a threatening manner, I'm breaking faces. Self defense is legal, these aren't cops, and that is assault. I'm also disgusted that coworkers didn't help out. Restrain the attackers, have them arrested. The president can only pardon federal crimes but I'm sure some was some illegally at the local level.

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 47 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

That’s what is making me anxious is that people stood by and let this happen. Doesn’t give me hope for any sort of actual resistance when push comes to shove here.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 44 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

It might be because people don't do well in a crisis and tend to seek out the normal. Like grabbing your luggage in a burning plane, or standing around in a medical situation. How to fix this? The immediate one is to have someone take charge and give instruction to others. For example in the medical example, you don't ask for help, you point at people and give them a duty, like calling 9-1-1 or getting something to help the victim. They'll do it, they just needed direction because their brain is stuck.

More importantly in this case, we need resistance and protesting to become a normal thing that people see and are exposed to. Then when they get into a situation where a reaction is needed, they'll have something to fall back on what to do and how to act. For most people they're still stuck in the "get back to normal" mode and hoping that things will get better if they just wait it out.

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[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Self defense is legal, these aren’t cops, and that is assault.

lol

These are the fucking brownshirts, good luck with that.

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[–] perestroika@lemm.ee 74 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Listing living people as dead in an official database is 99% likely a crime.

[–] dick_fineman@discuss.online 65 points 2 weeks ago

We're only a few months in, but this administration already needs Nuremberg Trials with the death-penalty as an option. These folks are actual overt traitors to our country, they are the enemies from within. And they should NOT get to just comfortably retire...they all need to be on death row.

[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 64 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Why isn't this DOGE person arrested for assault? We need the name, if our justice system fails to work because of the government prevents it then our Constitution grants us the right to correct this via the 2nd Ammendment.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 41 points 2 weeks ago

Why isn't this DOGE person arrested for assault?

Because the rule of law has collapsed in America. Stop waiting for it, you are already there

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 weeks ago

Because it's sensationalised and he didn't physically dragged from his desk by Doggy goon.

But his objections did not go over well with Trump political appointees. And so on Thursday, the security guards in Pearre’s office told him it was time to leave.

They walked Pearre out of the building, capping a momentous internal battle over the novel strategy

The article is based on another article by Washington Post, which did not mention any goon from Doggy nor any dragging.

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[–] rockettaco37@lemmy.world 53 points 2 weeks ago

So we've officially got a Gestapo in the country now?

C'mon guys.... let's wake the fuck up here.

[–] dryfter@lemm.ee 48 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Oh this just keeps getting more and more fun every day as someone who is on SSDI, Medicaid/Medicare, and HUD housing. Cut my SSDI and I lose access to everything. I mean it's "illegals" now, the rest of us "parasites" next?

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[–] MisterD@lemmy.ca 48 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] Spezi@feddit.org 18 points 2 weeks ago

They are trying to take over Social Security, so they can have the acronym.

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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 46 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

Why arent they being charged with assault?

[–] tibi@lemmy.world 41 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

This sounds oddly similar to the early days of SS which started as an organized bunch of goons serving the nazi party as security guards.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 38 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds like assault and maybe other legal issues. They aren’t LEOs.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 34 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yesss make them work for it

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[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago

Tell me more about how DOGE isn't actually making the decisions in any department

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If we totally have a problem with dead people wrongly receiving benefits, then Musk's logic is we should intentionally categorize people incorrectly as dead to counteract that? Rather than ensuring the database is accurate?

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

once these demons get their Nuremberg trials, we should bring back getting hanged, drawn and quartered. maybe add something else too. nazis deserve nothing less.

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[–] Grizzlyboy@lemm.ee 23 points 2 weeks ago

How much of a POS do you have to be to work for them or fElon?

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Every one of those goons has names, and individually decided to go along with what they knew was wrong.

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[–] Jerb322@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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Greg Pearre is the only US federal worker with a spine, sounds like.

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

Absolute fucking hero. If my time ever comes I hope I have the same moral fortitude.

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