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It's something I struggle with. Some bad news comes out about some public persona doing something shitty and they get cancelled. But sometimes I really struggle with giving up the things they've made because I like them. There are also occasions where the person has been accused of something and it doesn't seem true to me, or I think they're genuinely sorry and have been punished enough, and the context isn't being considered.

What do you think? Who do you feel conflicted about enjoying?

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[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 33 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Both of the Linuses

Sebastian and Torvalds

Sebastian because most of the shit he's been accused of has either been fixed openly, or was proven mostly false.

Torvalds because while he can be extremely rude, he generally only does it when the person deserves to be called out. It's not like he's going off at random people. Society says he should use more tact, but the dude is literally responsible for creating and now maintaining arguably the most important piece of the server software stack globally. There's also a very high chance he's on the spectrum.

[–] Deestan@lemmy.world 22 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah people can complain Torvalds was rude all day, but fuck me if the people he yelled at couldn't be aggressively disrespectful in bringing half-assed work to the table and doing damage or at best wasting other's people time.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 19 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

He's the literal "You're not wrong, you're just an asshole". But if he wasn't that way, I wonder if we'd have what we have. A nicer developer wouldn't get the same attention.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 9 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

You probably needed someone like him in a technical leadership role somewhere, the problem was that he became the face as well.

[–] BCOVertigo@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago

At least the face isn't steering the brain like most organizations!

[–] bizarroland@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

And when he acts shitty towards somebody, he does it publicly, where he himself can also receive the backlash from what he is doing.

He's not attempting to build a reputation as being a nice guy or a thought leader or anything. He is getting shit done, and anyone that's got a problem with it or him can either go do it better than him or stfu