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[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 218 points 1 day ago (13 children)

TW: suicide???

An autopsy report seen by Newsweek showed Ge was found tied with a bedsheet, with linens around his wrists and ankles in what the report described as a "hog-tied" position. The medical examiner noted that there had been other reported incidents of people who had hung themselves having done something similar, and that there were no obvious defense wounds.

Am I missing something here? How does someone hogtie themselves and then hang themselves? How is this being considered a suicide? Am I on crazy pills?

[–] drzoidberg@lemmy.world 135 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's not uncommon in Russia for people to commit suicide with a couple gunshots to the head, and then jumping out the window.

[–] Pistcow@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thankfully Dick Cheney can no longer enter the chat.

[–] kyonshi@piefed.social 2 points 7 hours ago
[–] end_stage_ligma@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Consistently happens to my 6/6/6 heirs... right after comet sighted.

[–] Minnels@lemmy.zip 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

I understood this. Classic.

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Could you link me up with any such case?

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Which ones are “with a couple gunshots to the head, and then jumping out the window”? I don't see them.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I think that guy might've been exaggerating lol

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Well, I wanted to give them a chance to show that they's not just making shit up, but what else could be expected when talking about Russia.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I mean falling out of a window and getting shot are pretty common on that list. And that list only starts in 2022 lol

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 0 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Ah, and that means that people are getting shot and falling out of a window at the same time.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

My man, I don't think it was supposed to be taken literally...

[–] Zoot@reddthat.com 1 points 4 hours ago

Buddies taking the XOR statement way too seriously

[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 32 points 1 day ago

David B. Rankin, the family’s attorney, in a statement to Newsweek: “It is truly mystifying how any detention facility can let someone leave their room, create three nooses and then hang themselves without anyone knowing. What’s worse is the lack of mental health care which could have prevented this tragedy. Mr. Ge’s death represents a totally failure on the part of the GeoGroup and the DHS.”

Seems like everyone is playing along with the claim of suicide while trying to get the details from DHS/GeoGroup.

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 30 points 1 day ago

We are all on crazy pills on this glorious day.

[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's how it's done in the United Soviet States of America.

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 day ago

Easy on the "United".

[–] jdredbeard@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

It's the same sense that Epstein "committed suicide."

A lot of people seem to "commit suicide" who were inconvenient to this Admin

[–] GlassHalfHopeful@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago

I literally just copied the same exact passage intending to ask the same question here. I'm not understanding how this is feasible.

This is absolutely tragic, regardless of the answer. But... how is this even possible?

[–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yes. I've also heard of Hanlons razor. Just because a philosophical concept exists doesn't mean it's universally applicable.

[–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago

I used to apply it to everything, then I found out about safety's razor

[–] MrShankles@reddthat.com 3 points 1 day ago
[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Well, while we're on the topic here... I'm way more okay with applying Occam's razor than Hanlon's in this particular circumstance.

Normally I'm the first to advocate for patience and generally assuming the best of people. So I really do wish that anything about this seemed like negligence or ignorance, but with this administration, all I can see is malicious intent.

[–] gnutrino@programming.dev 7 points 1 day ago

I imagine there are legal issues with reporting anything other than the official cause of death that Newsweek don't want to get into so they just laid everything out nice and factually so that readers can come to their own conclusion...

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Exactly what i came to say. How is that even possible?

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Oh I know, wasn’t this on Sherlock Holmes? They stood on a giant block of ice. When the ice melted, they were fatally hanged and the evidence disappeared

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

Hush. Stop asking questions.

[–] WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org -3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Put your head in the noose, tie your feet, tie your hands, probably using your mouth to pull the knot, and then do the drop. The reason for this would be to beat survival instinct.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are there cases of suicide where this has happened outside of law enforcement custody?

[–] lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

It seems you need 3-5 feral hogs to help with some of the steps

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

I’ve got ehlers-danlos and I am experienced with self bondage. Tying my own hands behind my back is not easy for me, let alone the average person.

Yes, but it describes it as hog tied, which is your feet ti d to your hands behind your back. I don't think I could hog tie myself, let alone hang myself after.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How do you tie your hands behind your back with your mouth? Especially when your neck is in a noose?

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

By using a slipknot. Ultimately it depends on the knots used and the order they were tied in, but it's technically possible.

Is it probable or likely? Absolutely not.