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I hate this heteronormative bullshit that topping is the same as domming
Wait, can you not be a hetero top or a hetero dom?
I... don't see how it is heteronormative to use an image that evokes sexual acts... to... imply a sexual interpretation of a typo.
Its... just a way to use a more SFW, recognizable meme.
Like, they could have used ... whats her name, Anhka, from that Animal Crossing porn anim that went viral a few years back, very obviously topping someone... but that would have been a lot more explicit.
Lois is also like, in the act of suiting up, with a non plussed, unenthusiastic expression, implying that ... there is a job-like aspect to this, yet another dumb charade/performance demanded by society to keep participating in it.
Give her a strap on and it's fine
So your stance actually is that a woman in a dominatrix suit is always propogating heteronormativity... unless she's wearing a strapon... while could be construed as being used for penetrating either a man or a woman or anyone else.
So in your mind, BDSM is heteronormative unless it explicity is made clear that it is not.
That would mean that in your mind, pegging is not heteronormative, even if it is going on between a heterosexual couple.... even though a man being pegged very, very much goes against the general social view of how sex between a man and a woman works or should work.
... You have a very different understanding of what heteromormativity is and means than I do.
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Like, I get the idea that pegging is not heteronormative... but you also seem to think that BDSM... is heteronormative, unless its made very explicitly clear that it is even farther outside the 'normal' realm, with specificity.
BDSM, to the point of owning a dominatrix suit, is absolutely not the standard norm.
It thus is not heteronormative.
We're at about 1 in 5 adults in the US that have tried BDSM once in their lifetimes. It is becoming more popular, but 1 in 5 is still not 'the norm', that'd be at least half.
I can't actually find stats on... how regularly people engage in BDSM as a recurring part of their sex lives, vs people who have just experimented with it... but it is definitionally less than 1 out of 5, likely considerably less.
But then you've also got all the stats on how people who do engage in BDSM are actually much more likely than the general population to actually identify as LGBTQ+ or engage in non-hetero sex... so yeah, thats just another way that BDSM in general just is not heteronormative.
I think the heteronormativity comes from the idea that men are always the ones both doing the penetrating and taking charge in the bedroom lol
Education would be more effective than complaining.
As a straight, isn't all this is missing for "topping" a strap-on? As in the "top" is usually doing the penetrating?
Its actually somewhat confusing.
Sometimes, to some people... topping just means you are literally, physically on top of them.
Sometimes, it means you are doing the physical penetrating.
Sometimes, top/bottom are the same as dom/sub... to mean authoritative vs submissive...
But you have terms like power bottom, and service top.
A power bottom is physically underneath the partner, but doing almost all the work, and is often also in the authority position.
A service top is physically on top, and/or doing most of the strenuous/penetrative physical work... but they are actually submissive, subervient to the other partner, who is authoritatively directing all their actions.
The vocab for all this is still quite varied and usually only standardizes fully amongst geographically constrained areas, as you would expect with what is basically a set of slang terms.
Excellent answer.
I'd argue that the outfit in the meme is generally considered a Dom outfit which is what triggers the start of this thread.
Although inaccurate it makes the point for the joke. A TOP image would be much more vulgar and hard to find a clean image for.
Exactly.
You can get away with a ... relatively low nudity depiction of a person in a bondage suit.
This also just generally conveys 'sexually curious / active.'
Whereas an actual, more literal depiction of topping someone would essentially by definition be so explicit as to be so blunt that ... it isn't as humorous, because your brain doesn't have to do any work to 'get' the joke.
Not to mention it would probably be censored, and thus far less people would see it.
I dunno, maybe someone can, or has come up with a ... 'help me step-bro, I'm stuck in the washing machine!' ... type of image.
Maybe a cowboy or cowgirl riding a bucking horse ... would be sufficiently understandable visual metaphor?
Then, there's most of the rest of the world where neither of those words mean anything, heteronormative or otherwise. I guess have heard of topping pot plants, though...
I literally heard about some cheerleader being a top today and it made me chuckle.
Synonyms are so hetero
lol wtf
Topping is the act of being the one penetrating their partner, dominating is taking control. They aren't necessarily the same thing
I agree except for the heteronormative part. What does the confusion of these terms have to do with heteronormativity?