Product R&D engineer here. I have a product manager who only knows how to give one piece of feedback: make it smaller and slimmer. What requirement is driving this? Can't say. What user need are we trying to address? No idea. But smaller=better for some reason.
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Can't you just kill him? You know, for the greater good?
Just make sure you dispose of the body in the smallest, thinnest container possible.
A slurry can be made very, very thin.
"Fun" little tidbit, the Mexican cartels call the guy who reduces bodies to a slurry "un pozolero" (a soup-maker) when they need to get rid of a body. Actual Pozole is quite delicious though.
Thinner until I can shave with this thing.
You're gonna have to hone it to keep its edge. Wonder if it'll come with vendor locked honing stones
Have you considered arranging an office white water rafting trip or perhaps cave diving, where a terrible misfortune may befall this person?
One thing people who don't build products tend to imagine is that PMs are constantly doing market research, data analysis, focus groups, etc.
That may be true at some companies, but IME they can be clueless beyond belief because their real job is to be salespeople. They sell dreams to executives. Whether those will actually sell is a much lower concern.
See also: AI being shoved down everyone's throats.
Bigger battery, more ergonomic grip, less camera bump, better thermal regulation, less weight, nobody wants a thinner phone
The camera bump is insane. Scratching the lens every time you place your phone on a solid surface. I have to find a specific phone case where the lip around the camera is high enough that it’s at least the same level as the lens.
And a screen small enough that I can reach the whole thing with my thumb — I have very large hands (and pockets) and find my phone very awkward to hold.
And no AI features.
And no AI features.
Best we can do is Liquid Ass.
It doesn't check all of those points, however a good number of them fit the new Sony Xperia, they have two models, one that's more powerful and expensive and a cheaper (€400) model.
I'm sick of my Samsung tbh, have had them for a while now, but as soon as I saw that the Sony phones have a headphone jack and Micro SD slot I'm sold for my next phone. No camera hole punch either (I'm not a fan of it, I can understand people liking it though).
We hear you, and added another Animoji meanwhile!
Next year we might allow you to change glass color OR opacity, who knows when the wonders will cease?
Make components smaller so you can have it be more powerful, not so it can be smaller and the same power.
Give me a week long battery.
Give me an actual camera sensor.
Give me no more lag.
Give me real storage.
Give me a fucking headphone jack.
Give me a replaceable battery!
Give me smaller, dedicated buttons.
Give me a phone with a real frame, something I can sit on, jump on, lean on, and use as a hammer.
Give me a phone that doesn't have components that slowly work themselves free over a few years.
No more planned obsolescence.
IR Blaster too!
YESSSSS those things were awesome. You didn't need it until you did, and then it was incredible to just have one in your pocket. It was just an ir led, too, so not including it was like... Wtf why
Give me a week long battery.
I got a Chromebook that lasts like seven days sleeping and 30 hours that I booted with Linux. It has headphone jacks. It has three USB ports. It also cost like $300.
It was awesome for light coding and browsing, and lasted 10 years.
Still got sweats going, "Eww it's notApple/isGoogle/cantplayCrysis/cant3DModelWhileWatching4K."
Give me texture! I want to be able to grip my phone and not have it constantly slide off tables and couches because glass is so smooth.
Ports and a slightly larger battery using the space in the shell created by the ports
And maybe a screen glass that is 3mm thicker but that won't break if you drop it
I could be wrong, but I don’t think this has so much to do with thickness as it does hardness. Like how you can smash automotive glass extremely easily with a tiny chunk of ceramic from a spark plug.
This is what it once looked like. 😭
The consumers complained so much that they brought back thicker MacBooks with more ports.
I mean, it still has 3 USB C ports, headphone jack, MagSafe, HDMI, and SD slot.
Life can be beautiful and functional and perfect, we’ve witnessed it and tasted it.
My phone has a headphone jack. I never want to let it go
I traded my headphone jack for a pen. I'm buying a new active USB-C-to-Jack converter every six month, because techbros fell in love with some futuristic concept image featuring a cyborg girl wearing what appears to be wireless earbuds. (At least the full transparent glass phone apocalypse is further away)
If they ever do that I will refuse to call them anything other than datapads
Headphone jack and removeable battery for me. I always have 3 batteries in rotation, and replace the oldest one every 2 years or so.
Carry a spare in my pack and have a 3rd charging on an external charger to swap out at home.
Im currently working full time doing solar installs. I do a lot of the EE and physical design, and can edit both from my phone, whole working off of existing plans. And I can't exactly have my phone plugged in while up on a roof. So I just swap out my battery when it gets low.
The when I get home, I swap out the dead battery for the one on the charger, and plug my phone in while I sleep.
I also end up catering or 'celeb' bartending 2x a month or so during the season out here. On those days ill often swap to the 3rd battery before I go to work for the evening so I have a fresh battery and can run the music off my phone all evening, without having to worry about power.
One of my gripes with smart phones: They’re so thin that they’re unergonomic to hold, which makes them prone to slip out of my hand. So I need a protective cover, which makes them thicc again.
ports and no wobble, caused by a stupid camera aisle, thanks.
I want smaller, not thinner, if I wanted a large phone, I would have used a tablet to take calls
At least MacBooks got a bit thicker and got a few extra USB-C ports after Ives left Apple.
And HDMI port came back. And shitty butterfly keyboard went away. And physical escape key came back. And touchbar went away.
A whole load of mistakes that had to be fixed.
Got a Zenbook Duo last year. As thick as an old Thinkad.
But it has two screens; one under the keyboard. The keyboard pops off, then you prop it up with the kickstand to get one at eye level and the other below.
It's friggin amazing.
I got fed up with this and ran across ulefone. Some of their phones are downright ridiculous but I'm happy with mine.
It's a waterproof brick with good grip and a 10,000mAh battery. Good for up to 4 days. It's also got rubberised grips and takes a beating. Oh, it also has a headphone port, and thermal imaging.
"Consumer" 🤣👍 Lemmy definitely represents.
The iPhone Air would've been a really refreshing change if it was uniformly thin (i.e. like now, but without the camera bulge).
In the other extreme I wonder why there aren't many phones that would fill up the space up to the protruding camera modules with battery - this way a smaller phone could have the battery capacity of a larger and thinner one.
I'll have one order of no ports besides USB C and no apple products please.

