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[–] kersploosh@sh.itjust.works 88 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Product R&D engineer here. I have a product manager who only knows how to give one piece of feedback: make it smaller and slimmer. What requirement is driving this? Can't say. What user need are we trying to address? No idea. But smaller=better for some reason.

[–] Lembot_0006@programming.dev 61 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Can't you just kill him? You know, for the greater good?

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 57 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just make sure you dispose of the body in the smallest, thinnest container possible.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

A slurry can be made very, very thin.

"Fun" little tidbit, the Mexican cartels call the guy who reduces bodies to a slurry "un pozolero" (a soup-maker) when they need to get rid of a body. Actual Pozole is quite delicious though.

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[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Thinner until I can shave with this thing.

[–] chocrates@piefed.world 4 points 1 day ago

You're gonna have to hone it to keep its edge. Wonder if it'll come with vendor locked honing stones

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 7 points 15 hours ago

Have you considered arranging an office white water rafting trip or perhaps cave diving, where a terrible misfortune may befall this person?

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

One thing people who don't build products tend to imagine is that PMs are constantly doing market research, data analysis, focus groups, etc.

That may be true at some companies, but IME they can be clueless beyond belief because their real job is to be salespeople. They sell dreams to executives. Whether those will actually sell is a much lower concern.

See also: AI being shoved down everyone's throats.

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[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Bigger battery, more ergonomic grip, less camera bump, better thermal regulation, less weight, nobody wants a thinner phone

[–] scytale@piefed.zip 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The camera bump is insane. Scratching the lens every time you place your phone on a solid surface. I have to find a specific phone case where the lip around the camera is high enough that it’s at least the same level as the lens.

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[–] pageflight@piefed.social 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And a screen small enough that I can reach the whole thing with my thumb — I have very large hands (and pockets) and find my phone very awkward to hold.

And no AI features.

And no AI features.

Best we can do is Liquid Ass.

[–] JadenSmith@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It doesn't check all of those points, however a good number of them fit the new Sony Xperia, they have two models, one that's more powerful and expensive and a cheaper (€400) model.

I'm sick of my Samsung tbh, have had them for a while now, but as soon as I saw that the Sony phones have a headphone jack and Micro SD slot I'm sold for my next phone. No camera hole punch either (I'm not a fan of it, I can understand people liking it though).

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[–] TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

We hear you, and added another Animoji meanwhile!

Next year we might allow you to change glass color OR opacity, who knows when the wonders will cease?

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[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 50 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Make components smaller so you can have it be more powerful, not so it can be smaller and the same power.

Give me a week long battery.

Give me an actual camera sensor.

Give me no more lag.

Give me real storage.

Give me a fucking headphone jack.

Give me a replaceable battery!

Give me smaller, dedicated buttons.

Give me a phone with a real frame, something I can sit on, jump on, lean on, and use as a hammer.

Give me a phone that doesn't have components that slowly work themselves free over a few years.

No more planned obsolescence.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

YESSSSS those things were awesome. You didn't need it until you did, and then it was incredible to just have one in your pocket. It was just an ir led, too, so not including it was like... Wtf why

[–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 4 points 16 hours ago

OnePlus models sometimes have them.

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[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 7 points 1 day ago

Give me a week long battery.

I got a Chromebook that lasts like seven days sleeping and 30 hours that I booted with Linux. It has headphone jacks. It has three USB ports. It also cost like $300.

It was awesome for light coding and browsing, and lasted 10 years.

Still got sweats going, "Eww it's notApple/isGoogle/cantplayCrysis/cant3DModelWhileWatching4K."

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Give me texture! I want to be able to grip my phone and not have it constantly slide off tables and couches because glass is so smooth.

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[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 46 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ports and a slightly larger battery using the space in the shell created by the ports

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And maybe a screen glass that is 3mm thicker but that won't break if you drop it

[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I could be wrong, but I don’t think this has so much to do with thickness as it does hardness. Like how you can smash automotive glass extremely easily with a tiny chunk of ceramic from a spark plug.

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[–] Asetru@feddit.org 29 points 1 day ago (5 children)
[–] BootLoop@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago

The consumers complained so much that they brought back thicker MacBooks with more ports.

[–] JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I mean, it still has 3 USB C ports, headphone jack, MagSafe, HDMI, and SD slot.

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Life can be beautiful and functional and perfect, we’ve witnessed it and tasted it.

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[–] joyjoy@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Also me: puts a thick case on my thin phone

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[–] ttyybb@lemmy.world 20 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

My phone has a headphone jack. I never want to let it go

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I traded my headphone jack for a pen. I'm buying a new active USB-C-to-Jack converter every six month, because techbros fell in love with some futuristic concept image featuring a cyborg girl wearing what appears to be wireless earbuds. (At least the full transparent glass phone apocalypse is further away)

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago

If they ever do that I will refuse to call them anything other than datapads

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[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 day ago

One of my gripes with smart phones: They’re so thin that they’re unergonomic to hold, which makes them prone to slip out of my hand. So I need a protective cover, which makes them thicc again.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 14 points 1 day ago

ports and no wobble, caused by a stupid camera aisle, thanks.

[–] Shady_Shiroe@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

I want smaller, not thinner, if I wanted a large phone, I would have used a tablet to take calls

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

At least MacBooks got a bit thicker and got a few extra USB-C ports after Ives left Apple.

[–] tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

And HDMI port came back. And shitty butterfly keyboard went away. And physical escape key came back. And touchbar went away.

A whole load of mistakes that had to be fixed.

[–] Fmstrat@lemmy.world 11 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Got a Zenbook Duo last year. As thick as an old Thinkad.

But it has two screens; one under the keyboard. The keyboard pops off, then you prop it up with the kickstand to get one at eye level and the other below.

It's friggin amazing.

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[–] cynar@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I got fed up with this and ran across ulefone. Some of their phones are downright ridiculous but I'm happy with mine.

It's a waterproof brick with good grip and a 10,000mAh battery. Good for up to 4 days. It's also got rubberised grips and takes a beating. Oh, it also has a headphone port, and thermal imaging.

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[–] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

"Consumer" 🤣👍 Lemmy definitely represents.

[–] kamen@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

The iPhone Air would've been a really refreshing change if it was uniformly thin (i.e. like now, but without the camera bulge).

In the other extreme I wonder why there aren't many phones that would fill up the space up to the protruding camera modules with battery - this way a smaller phone could have the battery capacity of a larger and thinner one.

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[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'll have one order of no ports besides USB C and no apple products please.

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