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[–] Unleaded8163@fedia.io 155 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Hmm... What's eating Windows' lunch? Oh "Unknown" and "Other". Cool.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 46 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If they're basing this off browser user agents like a third of my traffic at least is random Chinese ips and requests with Chinese language in the headers.

All of them would be flagged as unknown by the major user agent parsing libraries.

None of the sure I work with have any Chinese content or content remotely useful for Chinese people, so it's scrapers.

[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 33 points 1 day ago

From the FAQ:

Statcounter is a web analytics service. Our tracking code is installed on more than 1.5 million sites globally. These sites cover various activities and geographic locations. Every month, we record billions of page views to these sites. For each page view, we analyse the browser/operating system/screen resolution used and we establish if the page view is from a mobile device.

So yeah, they’re basing of browser user agents.

[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can it be fingerprint spoofers skewing the results? In that case the data is worthless.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 8 points 23 hours ago

Most people don't fake agent strings but the bots sure do.

The actual thing obscured by this graph is the amount of users. Most people use mobile devices now and companies are incentivized to use apps there instead of actual desk top machines.

[–] yessikg@fedia.io 11 points 1 day ago

That's probably Linux too

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

I think it's pretty clear from this graph that the macOS is eating their lunch, and to a lesser extent, Linux.

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[–] y0kai@anarchist.nexus 131 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The Year of the Unknown Desktop

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

As we know,
There are known knowns.
There are things we know we know.
We also know
There are known unknowns
That is to say
We know there are some things
We do not know.
But there are also unknown unknowns,
The ones we don’t know
We don’t know.

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 9 points 21 hours ago

The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where...

You get the idea

[–] Anafabula@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

What do we know about
The unknown knowns
The things we don't know we know?

[–] herrvogel@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

You know exactly how Greek fire was made. You just don't know that you know the exact recipe for the ultimate naval weapon. Yes, you in particular. Tell us.

[–] kopasz7@sh.itjust.works 3 points 21 hours ago

Like instinctual stuff you haven't experienced yet, I guess.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 22 hours ago

You'll have to ask Donald Rumsfeld.

[–] Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 hours ago

Seeing macOS go down, it seems to me, new macOS is masking

[–] DelnitaCrane@lemmy.world 29 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Everything going down or steady except "Unknown"

I don't care who wins, I care that Windows loses

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[–] CMDR_Horn@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What the hell happened in Jan 2023

[–] joelfromaus@aussie.zone 3 points 22 hours ago

That’s what I want to know too! Did Windows blip out of existence in the UK for a month or something?

[–] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 23 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

The unknown is actually a niche OS they put on all the smart dildo and sex toys they make now. True story. ✌️

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 hours ago

Teledildonics has been a promising technology for several years.

[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

And yes, you CAN run Doom on it. But turns out it's not a great idea

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[–] Stefan_S_from_H@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Let's see what the Steam Machine will do for Linux on desktop. 2026 will be interesting.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Even if they sell like hot cakes relative to their intended audience of Steam users, it will not make much of a difference in overall market share. Steam might be relatively big with PC gamers, but overall they are rather tiny.

[–] walden@wetshav.ing 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Tiny yes, but IMO getting the attention of computer gamers needs to be the next step if a Linux flavor is going to become a household name.

Even if it's "SteamOS" that becomes the household name instead of "Linux" that's still good overall. Maybe it'll turn into how people used to say they had "Droid" smartphones, not Android.

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[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 hours ago

Between that and windows 11 forcing people to choose between buying new hardware (at currently inflated RAM prices) , remain on win10 without updates ot switching to a different OS, it really could mean the fabled "year of the Linux desktop" has finally arrived.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 15 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (5 children)

I'm colour blind so there's basically only three colours on this graph but what I'm assuming is showing is that windows is decreasing in popularity and apparently so is OS X. I'm assuming the other colour is Linux or Chrome but no idea which is which.

For future reference, when making graphs make them in black and white first and if they are visually distinct then you can add whatever colours you want.

[–] onehundredsixtynine@sh.itjust.works 7 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Here's a table version of this graph: |Year-Month| Windows, %| OS X, %| Unknown, %| Linux, %| Chrome OS, %| iOS, %| Android, %| Playstation, %| macOS, %| Other, %| |


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| |2010-01| 93.76| 5.16| 0.2| 0.7| 0| 0| 0| 0.15| 0| 0.02 |2011-01| 92.02| 6.56| 0.07| 0.74| 0| 0.44| 0.01| 0.15| 0| 0.02 |2012-01| 89.62| 7.33| 0.07| 0.82| 0| 1.71| 0.24| 0.14| 0| 0.07 |2013-01| 90.96| 7.95| 0.07| 0.88| 0.01| 0| 0.12| 0| 0| 0 |2014-01| 88.87| 8.35| 0.05| 1.13| 0.14| 0| 1.45| 0| 0| 0 |2015-01| 88.19| 9.1| 0.91| 1.46| 0.33| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0.01 |2016-01| 85.18| 9.03| 3.8| 1.47| 0.51| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0.01 |2017-01| 84.4| 11.2| 2.07| 1.55| 0.77| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0.01 |2018-01| 82.68| 12.8| 2.17| 1.43| 0.9| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0.01 |2019-01| 75.47| 12.33| 9.41| 1.61| 1.17| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0.01 |2020-01| 77.7| 17.04| 1.83| 1.9| 1.52| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0 |2021-01| 76.26| 16.91| 3| 1.91| 1.91| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0.01 |2022-01| 75.5| 15.85| 3.86| 2.19| 2.6| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0.01 |2023-01| 74.14| 15.33| 5.27| 2.91| 2.35| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0.01 |2024-01| 73| 16.11| 5.33| 3.77| 1.78| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0.01 |2025-01| 71.9| 15.02| 7.43| 3.72| 1.92| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0.01 |2025-11| 69.37| 8.26| 13.14| 3.07| 1.3| 0| 0| 0| 4.85| 0

Unfortunately I can't paste the whole table here because of character limit so look at it here if you want to (in Markdown format).


Edited on 12/15/2025 12:05 UTC because the link suddenly died.

[–] realitista@lemmus.org 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Unknown is kind of a lot here

[–] ManixT@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

BeOS is making a serious comeback

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 hours ago

collapsed inline media

They're in order in this highlighted column:

  • Windows (at the top)
  • OSX
  • Unknown
  • Linux
  • Chrome
  • IOS
  • Other (dotted)
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[–] nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 14 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Unknown could be anything. It could even be windows!

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 hours ago

Unknown could be anything.

Thats not a bad thing.

I'm a big fan of preventing marketers from gaining additional useful knowledge about me.

Sometimes that means anonymizing, sometimes it means actively polluting their data.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 8 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

OS X

I don't use Apple devices and didn't realize that they didn't all use the same operating system (OS X vs IOS). Shame on me, I guess.

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 10 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

It's not even called OS X anymore, now it's called macOS.

iOS is actually based on macOS, although it's slimmed down a lot. iOS has been further split into iOS and iPadOS, although they're pretty much the same thing. It's just a marketing move.

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[–] klay1@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

A couple of peaks of unknown seem to match very nicely with the windows graph, if you invert it. I think the two big windows crashes we see are measuring differences or re-categorization effects. ... or how about brand new or discontinued versions of windows, that were not counted as windows yet?

[–] Chaser@lemmy.zip 6 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

Interesting. But since when is iOS a desktop operating system?

[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 hours ago

Since they added free-form window management.

[–] atthecoast@feddit.nl 3 points 7 hours ago

Probably since iPad gained a keyboard with mousepad?

[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 hours ago

It is barely on the graph at all, and really only in 2012 - I'm assuming they released some product around then that is enough like a desktop computer that it made the list but ultimately fizzled out.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago

At this rate it will only be relevant for another 15-20 years.

[–] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So I assume this is some kind of web traffic graph?

[–] AceBonobo@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago
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