lol. The great blue tsunami? Probably more like great blue tear splash. Never underestimate their ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. It’s by design.
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I’ve heard that the guy leading the Democratic Party right now has been pushing for a 50 state approach as well as pushing for all levels of government, even state legislatures. Putting more money into state parties as well. Seems like the right approach at least.
The last guy who had that idea got absolutely railroaded for showing enthusiasm during a stump speech.
He was right, though.
That is certainly a better start than years past where they simply ignored everything except top level offices. Including their voters.
But it still won't help anything if they try to run the most focused group tested, middle-of-the-road, oligarch approved, bland candidates. Mamdani and others are showing another path. But so far, local and national Democrats have always seemed to want to fight their kind.
if they try to run the most focused group tested, middle-of-the-road, oligarch approved, bland candidates. Mamdani and others are showing another path.
We should not care who they try to run, and instead show up in the primaries to dictate to them who we choose.
Wether we should or shouldn't doesn't matter since the last election showed people will either stay home or defect if Dems run another Corpo shilling milquetoast do nothing right of center candidate.
I'll still vote for them just to spite the Fascist Right Cunts but I certainly won't like it and I will certainly bitch about it.
Just be aware that you're not bitching into a vacuum. Think about the consequences.
I do think there's room to bitch, but it's important to be smart about it.
And yeah, let's win some primaries. I'm not compromising in the primaries. And I'm not going to be fooled by a run slightly left to be followed by a run towards center-right.
I agree. Though one addendum. showing up in the primaries is good, but it's not going to solve bad candidates. We need to start running ourselves. Rebuilding state parties ourselves. And telling the disastrous national party to get fucked.
That sort of concentrated power always results in conceitedness and corruption.
Only if progressives throw their hats into the primaries in 2026.
I've seen a disturbing lack of progressives readying up to kick out establishment dems, just like every year.
Dems broke their spirit.
MAGA took over the republicans without bitching that it was hopeless.
The Tea Party gave Repubs the courage to be the racist Christofascists they already were, the left side of American politics is far less homogeneous.
The Tea Party and MAGA also had billionaire funding.
MAGA did not try to upend the pro-buisness nature of the Republican party. MAGA and old school republicans serve the same masters.
Progressive reformers have a much steeper hill to climb, as it would require a near-total destruction of the Democratic Party status quo in order to effect meaningful change.
Both D and R politicians are deeply addicted to dark money donations; we have legalized bribery and corruption. Ending this addiction, even in one party, is not a small, simple act- it is a revolution.
Democrats will just go more right in response
That happened in Canada's federal election. Our Conservative party was acting like Trumpists, so people flocked to the Liberal party, our left-ish parties collapsed, and the Liberals took a big step right.
I gotta ask, like what's the plan even if there is a big blue wave? The current dream scenario it seems is just a centre-right single party state where the Republicans poof into thin air and leave just the Democrats. Your guys' country needs more parties
The last time the Democrats won control of Congress, they tried to pass a very large electoral reform law.
This bill bans partisan gerrymandering, requires Congressional constituency lines to be drawn by independent boundary commissions, introduces new limits on campaign finance, requires polls to be open for at least two weeks, introduces an automatic voter registration scheme, makes the final day of voting a federal holiday, expands postal voting, makes obstructing voter registration a federal crime, restores voting rights to felons when they leave prison, bans lying to voters about when or where to vote, introduces public financing of elections, limits the amount of money that political parties can spend on an election, requires candidates for president or vice-president to disclose their tax returns, imposes a code of ethics on the Supreme Court, and bans companies from making big donations to inaugural committees.
This bill did not pass because the Senate was evenly divided and the Democrats suffered a backbench rebellion from two "centrist" senators.
As is tradition.
This bill did not pass because the Senate was evenly divided and the Democrats suffered a backbench rebellion from two “centrist” senators.
There's a reasonable suspicion the Democrats only advance these bills proposing real change when they already know they have those two "rebels" lined up to block it. That way they keep the voters coming back for another try, while looking after the interests of those who pay them.
The plan is to create a de facto one-party state where Republicans consistently get around 20-30% of the vote.
To stay in power, the ruling party needs the opposition to be too weak to attempt a takeover, but too strong to be wiped out. By doing this, the "I'm not [opposition]" can remain the default messaging.
They have them, they just don't vote them. The big rain argument is "because nobody does".
Because the current system is setup to exclude third party voters, mathematically the FPTP system will result in a two party duopoly. And we've seen time and time again that the spoiler effect reduces votes to the party more similar to the third party.
So yeah, unless you get all the people to dedicate to a third party blowout, it is a waste. If an incumbent president didn't have enough influence to break the duopoly by going third party, do you really think it's ever going to happen? Particularly without a huge movement of said third party?
Pragmatically speaking, voting third party only serves to help the people you disagree with more.
No one but me, of course. I expect to vote third party (or for candidates considered a traitor to both big parties) until I'm dead.
Vote for me. My campaign slogan is "Bacon".
No further questions please! Elect me! Bacon.
Have you filed for write-in eligibility in my state?
If there's a way, no matter how small, for the Dems to squander this opportunity and wrestle defeat from the jaws of victory, they will leave no bland page of the most moderate and uninspiring speech unread to a near empty chamber.
My thoughts exactly. I can't wait to see the controlled opposition "accidentally" fumble a guaranteed win.
With a true left-wing leader, someone with leadership like FDR in the 1930s could be worth something. This bunch of cowards won't change anything, at least nothing that really matters.
I'll believe that shit when and only when it happens. I'm so sick of having only false hope.
every other year we got once in a generation elections
Even if they win every election they will find a reason not to do anything
Probably, my questions would pertian to what wealth could you get a majority of the population to agree on taxing, and how much.
It's easy to say "I think we should put in wealth taxes" it's hard to get people to agree that above $x dollars and for y% is what would be needed. Many Democrats would agree on wealth tax of 10% over $300 million. A lot of progressives would say that is far to little and to high starting entry, but if you shift those numbers lower/higher you would lose chunks of the population agreeing, and ultimately destroy the possibility of it being started. Which to be honest getting it instituted first, then modifying it seems like the easier thing to do, than launch i high enough tax to fix the issues up front. You'll lose all the corporate democracts, and essentially have 25% voting for it at that point.. making it a dead end
"Your father and I support the jobs the comet will provide"
Too bad the leadership are feckless losers.
They are paid to be so.
I'm sure they'll snatch defeat from the jaws of victory again, or squander the opportunity to make real gains with any win.
So, you guys remember when we had the “once-in-a-generation” chance to stand in the way of a fascist criminal Hitler-wannabe of a dictator?
We have one party that actually wanted this, another that couldn’t be bothered to do enough to distance themselves from it- and ninety one million dipshits that were fine with allowing either to dictate the results.
Never underestimate an American’s penchant for exerting less than the bare minimum of effort- even when it’s in their own best interest to do so.
This is better than my take. Have an upvote!
Never underestimate Democrats' ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Time to have a bad candidate in the "once in a life time" election from the Dems again so Trump gets his illegal 3rd term. Can't have a popular candidate, they might raise taxes on the rich and lower them on the poor.
The d’s really have a lot to learn from maga. MAGA created plans (project 2025, project 2026) that they started actualizing immediately after Trump won. Where are the d’s project 2029?
Well I'm prayin' for rain I'm praying for tidal waves I wanna see the ground give way
-TooL
lol yeah in 2012
Lol. Really? The last time they had a choice between a tepid mid candidate and an impeached, convicted piece of literal rapist shit and they chose to let the rapist shit into the office. I don't have high hopes, tbh. The voters would rather virtue signal than get off their fat asses to save their country.
This is the chance for Dems to once again wrestle defeat from the jaws of victory.
We need a better party. Dems are centrists; we need a progressive. One who won't olive branch the traitor party.
Imagine thinking that legit elections are on the way.