What a coincidence that the MAGA USA's policy towards Europe is almost indistinguishable from Russia's!
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Hey UK, how is brexit going?
Crap. Absolute crap.
And we're down in growth by 6% to 8% according to economists.
It has taught a lot of Brits how good being in the EU was (by taking away the benefits). All the "advantages" have also evaporated like pixy dust.
According to a leaked version of the Trump administrationβs US national security strategy, the White House is planning to call on Austria, Hungary, Italy and Poland to quit the EU.
I wonder where Poland would be without the EU...
No where near current development state, and people know that - huge percentage of people are pro EU.
I mean Hungary already acts like it's not part of it when it comes to anything regarding foreign policies. At this point I'm they seem to just be mooching off the economic benefits.
I don't think they'd quit though. They're benefiting too much. They bark but won't bite I think.
That's Orban not the people, we'll see in February IIRC when he gets the boot. Even with his anti democratic maneuversvit seems unlikely that he'd get reelected. I sure hope so too.
They became the poorest country in the EU but benefits the most, fuck that scum traitor.
And welcome back Hungarian people!
Austria
So this is it, this is how Trump finally starts WW3
Step 1 to Making Europe Great Again: Ignore every idea that comes directly from a Make America Great Again mouth piece.
Step 2: Educate the member states' populations so they stop voting in fascists.
Step 3: Congratulations, you're done!
Hungary leaving EU? Oh pleeeaaassse i can only get so wet!!
hungary is the welfare state of the EU.
this has putins stink all over it, if its not obvious already.
Who needs enemies when you have friends like this?
In any other world, where facts actually matter, "friends" like this would be called what they are: Enemies.
Yep, because it worked out so well for the UK
IMO: the Americans are adversaries now.
I donβt think Poland would ever actually leave the EU. Every poll says that poles love being in it even if the far right complains a ton. As someone who lived in Poland between 2005 and 2020 the improvements from being in the EU are so noticeable it would be suicide for the country to actually leave.
Isn't Trump's whole thing about stopping foreigners from interfering with your country and cultural erosion? Why's he enforcing HIS ideals on others?
@aarRJaay
Wait. You hope for coherence? _There_, in that cesspool of what may have been a mind once?
Introspection and understanding hypocrisy is the furthest thing I would expect from him
Poland, Hungary. Could he really imagine that they would ever serve HIM? (and not his boss in the east)
Austria LOL. Delusional. They dream of the swiss way.
Italy. They may be right wing, but never that stupid.
> [β¦] They may be right wing, but never that stupid.
β¦ we hope. Peopleβs stupidity can be staggering. Just look at whatβs been happening in MAGA land.
I agree, the stupidity of some people can be shocking. Just look at brexit. In Poland there are some minor voices for polexit, but for now it is ridiculed by majority. In 10-15 years imho it can change, since thanks to disinformation campaign done by russia we see that many people changed their opinion about Ukraine. Itβs heartbreaking.
Americans were only portrayed as strong and smart, like soviets socialism realism art movement portrayed soviets as strong and hard working "good" people. Nice propaganda eh.
I mean we all grew up with those badass americans in movies and books, a huge bias IMO.
Europeans have a huge cultural edge here IMO but I'm biased on that front ofc. We'll see, interesting times...
Is this a reputable news source?
LBC is a talk radio station/company, but they also do more serious journalism and podcasts. They platform a broad range of views, but tend to give the prime time slots to hosts on the right.
Reasonably credible.
Grand, thanks. Iβve just never heard of them before
So "Make X great again" just means bringing enshittification to the state level yeah?
They never said for whom they're making it great.
See? I told you this shit was gonna leak and start becoming your problem, too.
There is always shit leaking out of Donnie's diaper. Of course, this is a problem.
Trump is having trouble with Mearsheimer's blob.
Some of the most anti-EU countrys leaving the EU? Luckily I do not see big long term negativ consequences here.
Even if those 4 country would leave the union still would stand strong lmao
Might be stronger if a certain country left..
Defenetly. I would morn for the people of that country especially for a person that i knew personally
Austria, Hungary, Italy and Poland
There, saved you a click.
That would be great!
Let's start with ~~kicking out~~ saddly (*sniff *, *sniff*) having to see the departure of Hungary.
I mean, just look at Brexit: one side got seriously fucked up (instant fall of 20% of their currency and slowly dropping further behind economically ever since - the dream of a Economic Powerhouse Britain are gone and burried now: just ask even the most rabid Brexiter to list their Brexit Dividends) whilst the other basically just went over a small speed bump. I'll leave it as an exercise for the readers which side got which consequences.
PS: That said, having seen the consequences of Brexit is exactly why no EU nation is likely to ever take Donald on this - after that shit show the far-right in Europe went really silent really fast on the whole "we must leave the EU" they were so loudly demanding just a few months before.
PPS: Also as a person from a small EU country, lets just say we're very much aware of just how the big boys would fuck us up if we left the safety of the pack - unlike in Delusions Of Grandeur Britain the public opinion in little nations doesn't want a return to the way things were in 70s when they were the "punching bag of the big boys". Meanwhile the larger EU countries - which are all merelly mid-sized in World terms - after having seen what happened to Britain post-Brexit know with absolute certainty they have far greater influence being in the EU than they would outside, which is why even Italy with a well entrenched far-right government hasn't distanced itself an inch away from the EU. Only some totally out of control shit-show of a nation in the thrall of the nuttiest of nutter far-right would even just consider this and, frankly, them leaving the EU would be great for the rest (not least because, as it happenned with Brexit, it would at least temporarilly dampen the far-right in all the other countries)
UK is doing just as badly as the rest of Europe.
The actual benefit is being out of the environmental disaster that is the Common Agriculture Policy.