What a coincidence that the MAGA USA's policy towards Europe is almost indistinguishable from Russia's!
this post was submitted on 11 Dec 2025
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Why would US billionaires hand over control of their country to Russia? They can't be that incompetent and elections are not free enough that it could happen against their will.
It's not coincidence, but I doubt the Russian influence.
Because a) he's a Russian asset (apparently) and b) they have incriminating evidence on him and probably a bunch of other billionaires. Also, if they could spend a few billion in return for control of pretty much they would, they'd be willing to pay for it.
a) heβs a Russian asset (apparently
Apparently. It must be part of Flooding the Zone. Everybody has an explanation that is useless because it hides the real motives. Why would the elite accept a known Russian asset? It's a rumor since the 80ies.
incriminating evidence
Against all billionaires? As in the KGB could have won if they would have had it 10 years earlier? The US billionaires own the media. What could happen if something comes out?
if they could spend a few billion in return for control of pretty much they would, theyβd be willing to pay for it.
True, but how could they outspend US billionaires?
You might have sense on your side, but it can be very difficult for a reasonable person to make sense of the influence Putin seems to have on Trump. The man is clinically disloyal, but he takes Russia's side more often than not.
There could be compromat, but that alone would strongly arouse his ego defense mechanisms. The whole thing might be entirely predicated on flattery. It's the most disappointing possibility, and we discount it at our peril.
it can be very difficult for a reasonable person to make sense of the influence Putin seems to have on Trump.
That's the point. Flooding the Zone, to paralyze the voters. The political fabric is remade but people only watch and don't know who is responsible or whom to support to regain influence. Putin is out of reach unless people are ready for WW3. So all thoughts end there.
I had hoped to see the Russian regime collapse by now. I hope it doesn't come to that, war is the ultimate failure of imagination.
Hey UK, how is brexit going?
Crap. Absolute crap.
And we're down in growth by 6% to 8% according to economists.
According to a leaked version of the Trump administrationβs US national security strategy, the White House is planning to call on Austria, Hungary, Italy and Poland to quit the EU.
I wonder where Poland would be without the EU...
No where near current development state, and people know that - huge percentage of people are pro EU.
I mean Hungary already acts like it's not part of it when it comes to anything regarding foreign policies. At this point I'm they seem to just be mooching off the economic benefits.
I don't think they'd quit though. They're benefiting too much. They bark but won't bite I think.
Kick them out
Yeah hahaha, if Trump can convince them to leave voluntarily that 'd be the best thing happening to the EU in years.
That's Orban not the people, we'll see in February IIRC when he gets the boot. Even with his anti democratic maneuversvit seems unlikely that he'd get reelected. I sure hope so too.
They became the poorest country in the EU but benefits the most, fuck that scum traitor.
And welcome back Hungarian people!
Austria
So this is it, this is how Trump finally starts WW3
Step 1 to Making Europe Great Again: Ignore every idea that comes directly from a Make America Great Again mouth piece.
Step 2: Educate the member states' populations so they stop voting in fascists.
Step 3: Congratulations, you're done!
this has putins stink all over it, if its not obvious already.
Hungary leaving EU? Oh pleeeaaassse i can only get so wet!!
hungary is the welfare state of the EU.
Who needs enemies when you have friends like this?
In any other world, where facts actually matter, "friends" like this would be called what they are: Enemies.
IMO: the Americans are adversaries now.
Isn't Trump's whole thing about stopping foreigners from interfering with your country and cultural erosion? Why's he enforcing HIS ideals on others?
@aarRJaay
Wait. You hope for coherence? _There_, in that cesspool of what may have been a mind once?
Poland, Hungary. Could he really imagine that they would ever serve HIM? (and not his boss in the east)
Austria LOL. Delusional. They dream of the swiss way.
Italy. They may be right wing, but never that stupid.
> [β¦] They may be right wing, but never that stupid.
β¦ we hope. Peopleβs stupidity can be staggering. Just look at whatβs been happening in MAGA land.
I agree, the stupidity of some people can be shocking. Just look at brexit. In Poland there are some minor voices for polexit, but for now it is ridiculed by majority. In 10-15 years imho it can change, since thanks to disinformation campaign done by russia we see that many people changed their opinion about Ukraine. Itβs heartbreaking.
Americans were only portrayed as strong and smart, like soviets socialism realism art movement portrayed soviets as strong and hard working "good" people. Nice propaganda eh.
I mean we all grew up with those badass americans in movies and books, a huge bias IMO.
Europeans have a huge cultural edge here IMO but I'm biased on that front ofc. We'll see, interesting times...
Is this a reputable news source?
LBC is a talk radio station/company, but they also do more serious journalism and podcasts. They platform a broad range of views, but tend to give the prime time slots to hosts on the right.
Reasonably credible.
Grand, thanks. Iβve just never heard of them before
I donβt think Poland would ever actually leave the EU. Every poll says that poles love being in it even if the far right complains a ton. As someone who lived in Poland between 2005 and 2020 the improvements from being in the EU are so noticeable it would be suicide for the country to actually leave.
Yep, because it worked out so well for the UK
mercans repeating father Putins wishes.
Trump is having trouble with Mearsheimer's blob.
See? I told you this shit was gonna leak and start becoming your problem, too.
There is always shit leaking out of Donnie's diaper. Of course, this is a problem.
or it leaks out of russian agent tulsi gabbard.
Even if those 4 country would leave the union still would stand strong lmao
Might be stronger if a certain country left..
Defenetly. I would morn for the people of that country especially for a person that i knew personally
Even if those 4 country would leave the union still would stand strong lmao
Don't fool yourself. The EU would be severely affected if all those countries leave. With those countries ~115 million people (aka customers) would leave too. That most certainly would have negative effects for all of us.
It would be yes but wouldnt be dead