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Yeah at first it was him having sex unknowingly with a 14-yo. But dude had sex with her again after learning she was 14 and wrote a song about it. Wtf
You don't unknowingly have sex with a 14yo. I don't think I've met any that could pass for an adult. You have to be at least complacent with having sex with minors for that to happen and you not at least consider that they're too young.
I've known a bunch of 14-yos who manages to get into bars and to buy alcohol even from state alcohol stores where they're really strict because people thought they were (at least) 18-yo. A 14-yo managing to get people to think they are 18 (or whatever the age of consent was there at the time) isn't the hard to believe thing about this story imo, but with the situation described here, the scrutiny over someone's age might've not been all that thorough.
Having sex with her again and writing a song about it after knowing she is 14 though, what the fuck
Well, mistakes were made, it's regrettable but understandable.
Reads on
Oh for fucks sake!
Its forgivable that a 20 year old might accidentally end up in this situation, not having realised that she was only 14 until she said so...
But you know what a normal person does when they realise they just accidentally had sex with someone underage?
They take them back home to their family and apologise profusely. They don't have sex with them a second time round! That truly is some child predator behaviour right there.
Wasn´t he on heroin back in that day? Doesn´t excuse it of course, but don´t expect any mindful behaviour that respects the physical and psycological wellbeing of anyone around them from an addict.
Edit: Yeah nah, disregard that. I just read up on his bio on Wikipedia, it´s a pattern.
Should have been a massive red flag when he found out she attends a catholic girls school... "Student at a catholic girls school" does not at all say "this is a fully grown adult woman" in any language. That didn't give him any pause at all, so I'm not that surprised when a paragraph later he is explicitly told she is underage and his only real concern is getting caught by the chief of police father...
I mean those schools have 18 year olds and most classes will have at least one person who's 19 when they graduate. A 20 year old starting a relationship with someone in those ages isn't exactly alarming.
That's not at all what happened here though.
having sex with an underage girl twice is bad enough but the fact that he, as a famous person, wrote about it in a book because he knew there would be no reprecussions for him.......
He wrote that autobiography when the band was still in its prime, and about 20 years before the metoo movement. That part of the autobiography did raise some eyebrows but for the most part the world looked the other way. Just like everyone looked the other way when Steven Tyler, David Bowie, Jerry Lee Lewis etc all did similar & worse things with minors.
That book is written like my fourth grade English assignment. (I'm German)
It’s always the ones you most suspect
"Molester" is putting it lightly.
Topic aside, the page break is comedy gold.
He was about 22 at the time. I think it's deemed okay depending on how famous you are. /S
Lori Maddox and all of her buddies were having sex with half of the bands from the 1970's (there was no law back then I believe) Led Zeppelin, David Bowie, the rolling stones and so on. They were only 13. All written about I believe, some have since been redacted.
But by the time Kiedis was writing songs about having sex with school kids, and by the time he was having sex with school kids, I think it was illegal.
I remember reading about Led Zeppelin when I was getting into them, I must have been about 14 or 15. I didn’t really understand why but that stuff made me uncomfortable, even if I was at an age where I thought of myself (and others my age) as fully understanding adults. I definitely knew it was wrong at the time but I didn’t really understand why, not at that age. Didn’t know about Bowie, that sucks. Crazy how that could be known about someone and it’s not even the first or second concern, it’s a yucky little quirk of history that we ignore.
Even taking a step back, putting the revulsion in a box for a second to take a holistic look at the situation: the way it was written about as normal, and casually known, and practically glorified in the case that OP is referring to, and all of that… I don’t know. Good old days my ass
It sometimes feels like one of the few good constants is how child abuse is considered a grave crime in pretty much every society, but I still feel like there’s a disgusting undercurrent of acceptance for older men leering at and being creepy with young women in particular. I don’t know
EDIT: a quick trip to Wikipedia is showing me a very different tone of writing than I remember. That’s good, but that’s the bare minimum
He was about 20 years old at the time, a rock star signed to a label, and a hardcore drug addict. I'm not excusing the behavior, but I'm not sure what anyone was expecting. I think you'd be hard pressed to find someone in this time period in his situation that wasn't a massive piece of shit.
Edit: Some real libertarians up in this thread...
It's weird, I was 20 years old once. I knew a lot of people who were 20 years old the same time I was 20 years old. None of them raped any children. Some of them were in bands, they didn't rape any children. Some of them were addicted to drugs, they didn't rape any children.
He did specify that he was also a rockstar and a drug addict. I don't think their point was just the age
As someone who's gone through a meth addiction, I've seen it warp people and make them capable of things they'd never do normally. And I do mean sexually. This has been a topic at every HIV clinic I've worked for, the counselors would have pretty typical straight guys who would turn into nympho gay bottoms once they got high. I don't think it's a latent sexuality thing, I think their circuits are just so blown out they turn into a different person entirely. I've not been addicted to heroin (yet!) but I have to assume there's similar dissociation and personality changes from chronic use.
Writing about it later is gross as hell but 2004 was peak "gross fucking masculinity" time when this sort of shit was almost celebrated, so I can see him or the ghostwriter thinking it would be a brag of some sort.
Is he still doing it now that he's sober? Is he contrite? These are things I would factor in, even if it was a pattern during his drug use. I haven't followed RHCP in a very long time so IDK.
I fully support Romeo and Juliet laws to not punish horny teenagers for being horny teenagers, but a 6 year difference at 14 years old is completely out of any reasonable scope to make an exception. Doubly so when the guy was so nonchalant about it 20 years later.
He was 42 when he wrote the words pictured above
If he admitted to this in a book, imagine the shit he's done that he hasn't come out yet. Ugh.
Yikes on bikes.
"... but I did want to get her the hell back home right away. So we had sex one more time ..."
😂
If they went after every musician who banged an underage girl on a tour bus, you could put a pro rock band together in every penitentiary.
Then you could have a battle of the bands between rival prisons, which exposes a gambling ring among the guards and wardens, who are trying to rig the results, and in the distraction there's a prison break, and they escape to freedom over snow covered mountains, led by a friendly singing nun with a guitar...
But I digress. I meant to say, everyone was doing it back then.
we had sex one more time
💀
I also discovered this some days ago and was quite disappointed. One thing is committing the crime, but why would you "brag" about it years later in an autobiography?
Does anyone know if there can still be legal consequences for this?
Statutory rape is exempted from the statute of limitations in every US state. But either a direct accusor or an Attorney General needs to file a case.
How many 20th century rock stars didn't turn out to be horrible abusers?
The rest of the band isn't a whole lot better:
Then, Balzary and Smith jumped into the crowd. Balzary picked up the woman and began to spin her around on his shoulders, while Smith pulled her bathing suit to one side and began to slap her bottom, Grasso said. Officials said Balzary got on top of the woman, asked her to perform a sex act, then began to simulate the act.
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1990/03/17/Two-members-of-Red-Hot-Chili-Peppers-arrested/7434637650000/
Did I really need another reason to hate that band?
This dude has dated more underage girls than I have fingers. Why do people continue to look the other way?

