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Move to arm all 2,375 estimated troops marks shift in rules of engagement for domestic military deployments

The Pentagon said on Tuesday that every national guard member deployed in Washington DC would now be armed with live weapons, and that they had begun conducting joint patrols with the local police department.

The directivefollows the ambush shooting of two guard members near the White House last week, an incident that has prompted the Trump administration to order hundreds of additional troops to the city. One of the national guard members has since died from her injuries.

The escalation also comes as a recent order finding the national guard deployment in Washington DC unlawful is on hold, pending consideration of the Trump administration’s appeal.

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[–] y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 90 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

so CIA guy escalates war on civilians when civilians weren't doing it for them.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 22 points 13 hours ago
[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 69 points 14 hours ago

They blame it on a shooting last week but...

“National guard members supporting this mission have been armed with their assigned duty weapons since August 2025, in support of civil authorities and at the request of the lead federal agency,” a JTF-DC spokesperson said.

[–] velindora@lemmy.cafe 45 points 14 hours ago (2 children)
[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 26 points 13 hours ago

Yeah, but they still are, too

[–] credo@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Armed, maybe. Ammo is a different question.

[–] velindora@lemmy.cafe 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] credo@lemmy.world -1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] velindora@lemmy.cafe 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Well, no. But… if you were to place a bet, would you bet that they had unloaded guns on their body?

[–] credo@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago

Actually, yes.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 32 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

So, more blatantly illegal orders from Pete Hegseth? Cool. Add it to the list of charges against him...and as soon as Trump is out of office...drop the hammer on his nuts and throw him in the darkest hole the military has available for traitors like him.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 18 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Fascism won't die with Trump.

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 22 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Nope but we need to place great pressure on our representatives to put in safeguards against this in the future. The government has become like the early internet, too dependent on general good will and honorable behavior.

[–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 11 points 12 hours ago

The government has become like the early internet, too dependent on general good will and honorable behavior.

Yes, I've seen this called the "norms fairy" before, since a lot of people seem to be believe that "norms" can actually stop people in power from doing bad things.

[–] frizzo@piefed.social 5 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Hold your tongue, the early Internet was awesome. Surrendering rights for "safety" and cheap plastic junk is the problem you're an adult no one is coming to save you and no revolution or freedom was won without violence.

[–] bobgobbler@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 hours ago

lol you literally don’t know what you’re talking about tons were won without violence. Maidan, Portugal, Spain, all over thrown without violence. Hell we even had non violent revolution via civil rights.

You’re probably just some shitty AI from Russia or Israel tho

[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

White male power fantasies are what got us into this mess in the first place. People calling for violence are idiots. Non-violent resistance has a much better historical record of successes. Violence will escalate and lose long-term.

[–] 6stringringer@lemmy.zip 3 points 8 hours ago

It will be a great day nonetheless.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

No. They have been armed in every other Trump deployment too.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I was under the impression that according to the law, they were not permitted to have live rounds in their weapons though...which basically means they're "unarmed". Maybe I misunderstood.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 1 points 8 hours ago

You thought they followed the law. They do not.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I’d rather clamp them slowly in a machinist’s floor vice.

Pic for reference.

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[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 hours ago

The slower the better.

[–] Ancalagon@lemmy.world 31 points 14 hours ago

That makes sense hard to have a massacre without armed troops.

[–] Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Wonder which secret service man shot the national gaurds?

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 13 points 10 hours ago

It was probably the FBI that planned the whole thing, gave the guy the weapon, and goaded him into doing it just like they've been doing for decades so they can run to the news and talk about how they "foiled a terrorist plot."

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 16 points 13 hours ago

This seems like trump is kicking the bucket naturally and they're trying to set up for when their "dear leader" isn't the figurehead anymore. That might be why the Mark Kelly+ vet video about following unlawful orders came to be. We'll have dumb and dumber running the country. All speculation though.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 13 points 13 hours ago

Just remember everyone: the real victims the armed jackbooted thugs holding a populace at gunpoint in honor of rapists and nazis. And if you don't Support The Troops then you are literally worse than hitler

[–] etchinghillside@reddthat.com 10 points 13 hours ago

Next up - each soldier gets their own tank.

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 hours ago

So... they were just warm bodies in cute little war outfits before?

[–] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 hours ago

Posse Comitatus Act

[–] Corvidae@lemmy.world 1 points 1 minute ago

Search says open carry is illegal in Washington DC.

[–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 10 hours ago

Free guns, everybody! Anybody know how the weapons are actually handled? Is there a central point where they show up to each day and are given a gun, or do they keep them on them at all times?

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk -1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I hope that people adequately thank these psychopaths for their service. All Soldiers Are Psychopaths.