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I miss traditional message boards. No karma, no sorting algorithms, you just get new topics on top and replies are sorted oldest to newest.

You can have forum threads that go on for decades, but Lemmy's default sorting system quickly sweeps older content away. I'm aware you can mimic the forum format by selecting the "chat" option in a thread and sorting by old, and you can sort posts by "latest comment" which replicates the old-school forum experience pretty well, but nobody does it that way, so the community behaves in the manner facilitated by the default sorting algorithm that prioritizes new content over old but still relevant content.

I also notice that I don't pay attention to usernames on Lemmy (or Reddit back when I was on it). They're just disembodied thoughts floating through the ether. On message boards, I get to know specific users, their personalities and preferences and ups and downs. I notice when certain users don't post for a while and miss them if they're gone for too long.

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[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 110 points 17 hours ago (2 children)
[–] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 59 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

u just necro'd this post bro

[–] early_riser@lemmy.world 20 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

I find it interesting how thread necromancy can be encouraged on some forums but discouraged on others depending on the local culture. On the pro necro side I can see people wanting to maintain and consolidate discussions rather than constantly rehash them. On the anti necro side I can see how necroing a controversial thread could re-ignite a long extinguished flame war.

[–] klangcola@reddthat.com 30 points 16 hours ago

The other day i necrod a nearly 3 year old forumthread with some new information. A few hours later the person from 3 years ago came back and thanked me because the new information helped them. Sometimes nercomancy is good :)

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 10 points 16 hours ago

If old discussions have no value, then the forum is topical and shallow. If old discussions have value then they are deep and go beyond today's thpught-pablum.

[–] spankinspinach@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 hours ago

I just learned a whole terminology and subculture based on this comment alone

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[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 15 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] EnsignWashout@startrek.website 78 points 17 hours ago

I like this better.

The threaded conversations allow a useful interesting discussion to continue, even after some random person's comment details half the participants.

[–] thatsnothowyoudoit@lemmy.ca 53 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Like others I also appreciate threaded comments here.

But for many niches - forums still abound. I regularly participate in four for specific interests.

On the flip side I loathe the attempt to replace forums not with Lemmy/reddit-like tools but with Discord.

Ugh.

[–] klangcola@reddthat.com 40 points 15 hours ago

Ugh indeed! Discord is an information black hole, where information enters never to be found again by search engines or even its members

I can understand replacing IRC with Discord, but using Discord as a forum is madness

[–] early_riser@lemmy.world 24 points 16 hours ago

Discord is even more ephemeral than Lemmy/Reddit. Conversations fly by in minutes or seconds. Discord as a specific platform is starting to enshittify as well.

[–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 11 points 16 hours ago (8 children)

I cannot fathom the popularity of Discord. It's IRC with rich media support - what good is that as a replacement for non-ephemeral communities?

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 10 points 14 hours ago

It certainly scales like shit, but Discord has a very smooth text chat/video sharing features that work extremely well for smaller numbers of people. Like for me and a dozen friends it is the perfect social space, but anything bigger than that and I bounce off hard.

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[–] Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

I prefer and always have preferred a vote system like we have here. Forums made paralel conversations impossible to follow, gave a bigger voice to trolls and made finding information in big threads difficult. I absolutely hated the common answer to a question being "search the forum". I already have Jared, the search function is trash and the information is scattered and outdated.

What aspect I do miss is the fact that threads stayed relevant for more than 24hrs. I think a combination of the two systems would work for a forum 2.0, where ranking is based on activity and votes, so a post gets pushed back up in ranking if it's still active and relevant, instead of just taking raw votes and age in considerarion, but also the comments within are grouped in conversations based on who replied to who and can move up and down based on activity and age.

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Yeah, I dare anyone to try digging through this thread and still claim afterwards that it's better than branched comments.

[–] mirshafie@europe.pub 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Exactly, threads that get new activity should be bumped. Maybe they don't need to be super-visible for people who ignored the thread in the first place, but they could at least go to the top-50 posts.

I think it would be cool if conversations that link to the same URL are all automatically grouped, so that reposts just become bumps with a new context/title.

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[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 27 points 17 hours ago (6 children)

Upvote/Downvote/likes is the cancer that ruined it all. Before that one actually had to speak in support or against any given ideas. Now people can assume anything is true/false based on an arbitrary engagement number.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 14 points 14 hours ago

That lead to a lot more back and forth arguments as people had to get in the last word or people chiming in with agreements because that was the only way to see if multiple people agreed.

I like forums for informational discussions that don't have a ton of back and forth. Forums are better for hobbies in my experience.

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 6 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Upvote-downvote is a great reaction to all the trolls. combined withan algorithm they can surface the good stuff and alert moderators to garbage. Algorithms are wrong in many places, but that is the implementation that is bad not the idea itself

Lemmys culture of downvoting well written things you disagree with is a problem though. So long as nothing is done about that you can't make a good algorithm. idealy you would have the guts to upvote things you disagree with, but at least we need people to stop using downvote to disagree - respond with reason if you disagree.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 8 points 14 hours ago

Lemmys culture of downvoting well written things you disagree with is a problem though

A well written post that is completely wrong, possibly offensive, and a net negative to the conversation doesn't deserve immunity to down votes just because of how it was written.

we need people to stop using downvote to disagree - respond with reason if you disagree.

A down vote conveys disagreement and if everyone who disagrees responds then there will be complaints of people getting dog piled. Down votes means letting off some steam for some people, sometimes as a counter to a crappy post or comment getting positive votes they don't think it deserves.

There are also a very tiny number of times that I have seen down votes on something that didn't deserve it. Overall the vast, vast majority of votes are up votes even for stuff that doesn't deserve it and a few down votes doesn't ruin anything. The system works extremely well, even if people have a wide variety of thresholds for up voting and down voting.

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[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 4 points 12 hours ago

I remember a couple forums had a "thank" feature or something similar that would show, with your username, your approval for a post without having to make an additional post about it. No downvotes though, you had to speak up to be a hater. I think that was a fine middle ground.

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 24 points 13 hours ago

Forums were cool. They often had their own culture and in-jokes. People would become well-known on the forum. There's a couple names I recognize on here, but it's mostly transient. (On the other hand, I've probably had a vicious argument with someone and then a nice chat with them later, without realizing it was the same person).

Most internet users seem bland, and just congeal onto youtube, discord, twitch, and other nightmares.

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 17 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Unrelated but does anyone know how to fix my gpu drivers?

Never responds again

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[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 17 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I used to mod for a forum. I would not do that again.

Also, isn't this interface just forum+?

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 16 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

Everyone here saying they still exist.

That’s not the point.

The variety and quantity have all been replaced by spaces like Facebook, Youtube, Discord, and Reddit. Heck, I used to help run two gaming phpBB forums and participate in several others. They’re all gone or the groups have moved to Discord or whatever. PhpBB forums were usually run by private individuals, modded by those with shared interest, and subsisted on donations to run if the owner didn’t just pay for it out of pocket. It was still a little bit of the “old internet” where anyone could create their own slice of it for next to nothing.

I miss them because is was a concentration of each niche and there usually wasn’t much competition. No competition for “likes” or whatever. More of a conversation. If you were into something like old tractor restoration (this one still exists as a forum), you could find a wealth of knowledge in text and photo form, videos, if any, are short and generally to the point without deliberate monetization. I absolutely cannot stand YT as a “information” source because of the constant fluff generation to extend the video for adspace and groveling for subscribers. But that’s a whole different rant.

Anyway, yeah…some forums do still exist. Thankfully they’re generally pretty good at what they do. The others have vanished or moved to corporate social media platforms.

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[–] Zonetrooper@lemmy.world 15 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, for one particular reason: I've always favored longer, slower posting - structured responses to earlier posts with multiple paragraphs to propose a point, explain, and support it. Including the ability to quote / link back to multiple different posts in a thread if needed. The... for lack of a better way to put it, "Reddit-esque" style of branched comments to a post (which includes Lemmy) is nice because it allows multiple parallel discussions rather than one dominating one, but it also seems to discourage longer, more in-depth responses. It also means that interesting ongoing discussions which I'd love to get into can get buried down later in the comments.

Like OP, I recognize that there's nothing actually stopping me from doing this on Lemmy. There's chat and sort-by-new, and of course I can link as many other comments as I want. But the overwhelming trend is towards shorter, snappier answers before you move on to the next comment chain or post; discussions rarely last more than a few hours, whereas forum threads used to be able to keep them going for days.

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[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 13 points 8 hours ago

I always hated the UX of forums. It was incredibly difficult to follow long threads with loads of pages. Personally I prefer the format we have here on Lemmy where comments are nested off the main post.

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 11 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

you just get new topics on top and replies are sorted oldest to newest.

you can do that here too.

[–] early_riser@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

And I point that out in the OP, but my point is it's not the default so the community culture doesn't encourage long term discussion. I've tried making a single megathread for all my content on a particular community but it never went anywhere because, to everyone else who wasn't sorting posts and comments as described above, the post just dropped off the front page after a day or two never to be seen again.

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[–] criticon@lemmy.ca 9 points 11 hours ago

No. I feel like reddit/lemmy is a good progression for forums, and I absolutely hate discord when used for technical stuff

I still use some forums like xda-developers and I don't enjoy it as much a I did 10-15 years ago

[–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

They still exist, they're just kind of rare. There's even federated forums like NodeBB. I actively read stuff on SpaceBattles, Sufficient Velocity, etc. It's admittedly difficult to find something with absolutely no like/karma system, but for instance the hellhole known as GameFAQs still exists.

[–] bigfondue@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Google deprioritized smaller forums and it sort of killed them.

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[–] RecallMadness@lemmy.nz 8 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I miss the individuality of the old internet. Websites, communities, and users being themselves.

ShitNugget9000 on one forum might be SirReginald79 on another.

Policies set for the community, not the leaseholder.

The internet controlled by a hegemony sucks.

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[–] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 8 points 15 hours ago

no. traditional forums were worse than fedi, because you needed an account for every site. that's not the case here.

[–] theherk@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

They’re still alive and kicking.

[–] ruuster13@lemmy.zip 9 points 10 hours ago

But search engines try to steer you away instead of help you find them.

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[–] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago

discourse > discord

[–] Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk 7 points 11 hours ago

I miss the community. I was a member of a community forum for about 18 years. You knew everyone and it was generally nice.

[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

I also notice that I don't pay attention to usernames on Lemmy

I'm not sure if this is a Lemmy-wide thing or if it's just because I use the Connect app, but I can add User Notes that function as a little tag next to people's usernames. Since I started doing that I've noticed just how small Lemmy is, or at least how few people actually are posting content.

Most of my notes are just to let me know not to bother getting into arguments with them on stuff. Conservative trolls, tankies, AI slop enthusiasts,, people who steal content from others, etc. But occasionally I'll mark someone down as a notable quality poster.

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[–] tomiant@piefed.social 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

That forum structure worked for nice forums with like a hundred active users, it doesn't work when it's tens of thousands of people. I mean I miss old time BBS forums, for what it's worth, but the "reddit style" system is much better in my opinion.

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[–] Pazintach@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

I went back to blacksmithforums.com just now, to my surprise, they changed their software. Now I can't find all the posts that I saved about historical researches...

There are still quite many game developers' forums, but what bothers me a little bit is that sometimes the long living ones periodically lost their past.

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[–] Onyxonblack@lemmy.zip 5 points 14 hours ago

That's what the Steam Forums are for. I Wonder if Eve Online still has it's fancy website forums.

[–] sanguinepar@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I still use a traditional forum, so in that sense I don't miss them, no 😁

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[–] kratoz29@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Do we have a list of not death forums in 2025, I have been eyeing the following (Spanish forums) and even logged in again!

Emudesc.com Elotrolado.net Forosdz.club

As I only frequented forums as a kid and I didn't know the English language back then, Spanish forums is the only sweet memory that I have, but now I can be part of English forums too, the sad part is they are no longer mainstream 😅

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[–] riley@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 13 hours ago

I absolutely do. I've often dreamed of setting up a forum for my immediate friend group but I don't think the idea would get a lot of traction.

[–] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

I still use them, because they're awesome.
They're not gone, although there are quite a bit fewer than some time ago.

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[–] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

I miss the annonimity of them, and the lack of robots crawling them

[–] Retro_unlimited@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I remember back in 2007,2008 etc I had an app on my phone that had tons of forums on it. I spent years on that app reading, learning, screen shorting, so much information. It was my favorite app. Few years later I get a new phone and can’t find that app anymore. There was a woodworking forum, electricians forum, welding forum, weed forum, and so many others. All in one single app.

Couldn’t find any of the forums. Depressing.

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[–] saltnotsugar@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

Luckily there are still some interesting forums around for specific topics and old school games!

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 points 16 hours ago

Wake me up when Usenet comes back around.

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