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[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 107 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Not only that, but charging full price for a game and then charging $15-20 for cosmetic DLC is fucking wild. If I've paid you $60+ for a title, I expect the full experience. If you want to add some shit a year down the line to lengthen the life, I'm on board, but day one DLC that costs more than the base game was played out the moment Bethesda graced us with horse armor. I've gotten more joy out of Vampire Survivors than I have out of any Ubisoft and EA games in the last 20 years combined.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I was considering buying Risk of Rain 2 on sale yesterday for 9€ but buying all the DLCs costs 45€.

[–] moncharleskey@lemmy.zip 14 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

For what it's worth, only one player needs the DLC for everybody in the session to use it, which is pretty cool of the devs to allow that in this day and age.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

That is very interesting 🤔
Thanks!

[–] kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Unless something changed, players who don't own DLC can't play as the DLC characters. I believe they can interact with all the rest of the content normally, just locked to the vanilla character selection (which is still broad and fun enough, and further expandable with mods).

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[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 74 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

Let's see, 70-100+(!) bucks for the (yawn) twentyseventh COD with a 4 hour campaign, or 20 for a game that is complete and lasts for dozens if not hundreds of hours?

Yeah, my choice is easily made.

[–] Malix@sopuli.xyz 46 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

it kinda feels like the more expensive a game is, the less value it seem to have.

[–] zecg@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago

That's exactly it, was looking for this comment.

[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 6 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

The most expensive game I own is Baldurs Gate 3 (@ $70 CAD) and it’s the only game that was worth full price in my 12 years of activity on steam and over 250 games purchased. My next most expensive game was $30 CAD and I only bought a few games that high.

[–] grillgamesh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 10 hours ago

factorio has mods that last thousands of hours. they're free additions, and the full game with its dlc is only like 60USD. is ridiculous.

THE FACTORY MUST GROW THE FACTORY MUST GROW THE FACTORY MUST GROW THE FACTORY MUST GROW THE FACTORY MUST GROW

[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I’ve got something like 200 hours in Vampire Survivors, and it cost me less than a fiver

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The price has crept up with the paid expansions, but holy shit do NOT sleep on the Castlevania one. It doubles the base game content, and fits in great.

[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

I’m burnt out on it at this point. In the whole bullet haven gameplay loop.

[–] bobo1900@startrek.website 5 points 10 hours ago

Don't forget that Fallout New Vegas regularly drops below 15$ with all the DLC

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 67 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

And compared to the 10 year old titles on sale that actually work well and look great on 5 year old mid-range HW...

[–] zecg@lemmy.world 22 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

That's another problem, even if we disregard optimizations, AAA games from 2015. look better than modern upscaled stuff, Unreal Engine seems to be easy enough to use nowadays that big vertically-integrated slop publishers replaced seasoned developers with the cheapest of zoomers.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 41 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Thing is, I can also NOT play games and spend my money on other hobbies.

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 53 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

i will continue buying the games and not playing them, tyvm

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 10 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

A person of culture, I see.

I have the time to play games. I own many games. Yet I am not playing them. Why? I used to love games. Why can I not get sucked in anymore?

[–] tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 13 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Depression and anxiety, probably.

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[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 5 points 11 hours ago

That's why they add gambling mechanics in games. That way many can not stop playing.

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[–] Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 30 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I had to drop my “under 5 bucks” rule because games don’t drop that low anymore. 10-15 is where it’s at now, for better and for worse

[–] hydrashok@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I’m still holding to it, but I agree, it’s getting harder and harder to find stuff on sale for less than $5. Especially if you’ve been on Steam for a long time and have a large library already.

[–] Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 hours ago

SUICIDE SQUAD FOR $3.50 GAMERS REJOICE

~/s, obviously~

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Almost all of the "Top 10 most replayable games" I have are Indie games, especially in the last 10 years.

They're games like Factorio or Project Zomboid which I keep getting back to a year or two after I last played so much of it that I got fed up.

Glitzy AAA open-world-ish games have beautiful visuals but their replayability is near zero, worse so for games which seem open-world but are in fact linear.

Mind you, some older AAA jewels in that style (such as Oblivion) do get me to come back eventually, but it takes something like 5+ or more as I basically have to forget most of the story before it's interesting to play such a game again.

If Price matched "Hours of Fun", almost all of the AAA stuff would be way cheaper whilst many Indie games would be far more expensive.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 hours ago

Fallout New Vegas still hooks me in.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 26 points 8 hours ago

Buying power is down. If they want me to spend more, capital has to pay me more.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 26 points 6 hours ago
[–] camdog2000@ttrpg.network 20 points 7 hours ago

Charging anything is tricky.

I'm comparing it to what I could be getting for free, either with torrents or emulators.

Most games being released aren't even worth my time, let alone my money.

[–] jaschen306@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Piracy is free. If you're charging 70usd for a game, then I'd rather just spend the time and pirate it. If it's 10 bucks, Im just lazy to do a Google search and pay you for it.

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 3 hours ago

That plus so many games that are genuinely good and I have lots of hours into are in the $5-20 range.

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Plus those 70$ games invest so much of that $ in fucking you with DRM.

[–] jaschen306@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago

Oh fuuuuuck the DRM. I purchased CIV5 for my phone and it requires an active internet connection or it boots you out. I only play on an airplane. So I ended up downloading the pirated version so I can play the game I purchased.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 13 points 7 hours ago

I've got to be honest, the price of a game is probably the least important factor on whether I make a full price purchase.

I'm not going to rush out and buy something I've no real interest in. I can count on one hand the number I've made this generation. On PS2 I'd be grabbing something every week or two, but now I just can't get excited for the latest and greatest updates on old formulas. Half the time I buy just to encourage them to make more games like that, like I did with Talos Principle 2, Astro Bot and Split Fiction.

I might pick it up later if I feel inclined, or see it on a decent discount. Like Clair Obscur, that I picked up for £29 in a sale just because I remembered it existed and fancied something to play over the winter holiday.

[–] Insekticus@aussie.zone 7 points 2 hours ago

CEO and C-suite bonuses are the biggest budgetary fat that never gets cut and is fundamentally what the excessive costs are paying for. If you want better sales, cut the wage and bonuses to said roles who do the least work and reap the most reward.

[–] BenjiRenji@feddit.org 6 points 7 hours ago

The game must be a GOTY contender or I'm not gonna pick it up at full price. I have no issues paying up for a new, unique experience that sounds exciting. Games I know I like, but rehash an old formula land on the wishlist until they are 30% off. Games that look cool, are recommended, but I'm not sure I will like them land on the wishlist and need to be below $20 when I buy.

With these simple rules I still have too many unplayed and unfinished games in my library, so... yeah.. you gonna have to take some risks to win big.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 11 hours ago

Megabonk, my beloved...

[–] tflyghtz@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

Thing is, anything under 20 gets purchased, anything above that will be pirated (quite easily)

[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

Better to say, they are compared to good games priced at 10 to 15.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Always compare value and price.

More often than not, AA games seem to come with a AAA price tag.

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