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[–] KnitWit@lemmy.world 213 points 1 day ago (4 children)

There's a difference between a 15-year-old and a 5-year-old, you know?

She should not be able to walk down the street without constant reminder of making this statement about victims of sex trafficking. Absolute monster of a person.

[–] gdog05@lemmy.world 65 points 1 day ago (3 children)

There's a difference between a 15-year-old and a 5-year-old, you know?

"There really is, one is annoying and one is hot". -Trump, probably

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Balaquina@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 day ago

More like "I've been dating her for 2 years, and her in another 8."

[–] degen@midwest.social 18 points 1 day ago (3 children)

In his defense, teenagers are annoying as fuck.

...

I'm so sorry

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Megan Kelly has a 15 year old daughter, someone should call CPS and look into this poor kid if her mom thinks a grown man grooming her isnt a bad thing

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I want every single, sheltered Lemmy progressive to use this opportunity to SPAM every message board, every subreddit, every facebook group, with this clip, this story, Megan Kelly's warp-distorted face rationalizing the abuse of children.

THIS is the shit we need to be doing and putting all our energy into instead of infighting about what words are problematic.

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[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 160 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] ryry1985@lemmy.world 66 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Yes, it's technically Hebephilia or Ephebophilia. That doesn't change the level of disdain.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Yes, it’s technically

Exactly the same if I started to call driving with a blood alcohol level between 0.8% and 25% "happy fun time driving" and pretended that means it's no longer the same as DUI...

People can make up all the terms they want, don't change the law tho.

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[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago

technically Hebephilia or Ephebophilia

You've been made mod of r/Libertarian

That doesn't change the level of disdain.

You've been removed as mod for r/Libertarian

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[–] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 121 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Holy shit they're actually doing the hebophile bit

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 47 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, but it's impossible to explain without sounding like a pedophile....

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[–] hannesh93@feddit.org 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

I mean it's kind of important to be more mindful about the choice of words in general as many people say pedophile but mean child predator.

There are many people born with that attraction to kids that never act on it or even actively seek help.

The whole "let's call everyone a pedophile" is doing more harm than good as it creates a huge stigma preventing people from looking for help.

That said: they are 100% not caring about that at all and just moving the goalpost...

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 15 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I do 100% agree that the concept of having hugely varied terms for pedophile, and say the term Minor attracted person, and get really sick of hearing people lash out on when the term MAP is used to say "You just want to protect pedophiles".

No I want people who have the urge to abuse children, to get treatement and never act on it and live peaceful happy lives where they never harm an innocent person, and to me that is far better of an outcome than a child being abused, but supposedly it gets made up for by the abuser getting tortured in prison.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (7 children)

TIL hebophile and ephebophile, two words I didn’t want to know existed.

[–] skibidi@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

It is a useful distinction when considering possible rehabilitation. In general conversation it's just weird.

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[–] henfredemars@lemdro.id 120 points 1 day ago

Look at those goalposts go!

[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 112 points 1 day ago (5 children)

It is so predictable that conservatives would end up in "Pedophilia isn't that bad" once it became undeniable that Great Leader raped little girls.

[–] droopy4096@lemmy.ca 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

funny that QAnon stuff circled around Dems having pedo-leanings and that was an OUTRAGE yet now it turns out to be OK, Humane even... wtf? Their morals exist only to stick it to anyone opposing them and they evaporate the second one of their own is caught doing exact thing

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Q-anon was never about children.

It was always about the fantasy headline: "Uneducated Everyman Uncovers Massive, World-Altering Secrets and Becomes Huge Hero by Decoding Publicly Published Materials for Unique Connections and Number Puzzles"

They are entirely damaged or dumb or religiously brainwashed people who are so deeply insecure about their lack of factual understanding of the world, that Q-anon became their "gateway" to some kind of real way to impact the world and be recognized for something good.

When a family member of mine fell down this pitcher-plant of mental illness and delusion, I went deep and hard into learning everything I could about the movement and conspiracy culture. Sadly my family member could not be pulled out and was at one point arrested for trying to... abduct girls. Seriously. He rationalized that he was trying to "save" them.

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[–] saigot@lemmy.ca 66 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

He's not a Pedophile unless he comes from the Pedo region of Epstein Island, otherwise he's just sparkling child molester.

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[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 64 points 1 day ago (12 children)

Im sorry, is this a conversation about the degree to which he is a pedophile?

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[–] JustKeepStretching@lemmy.world 63 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This is one of the wildest most disgusting goal post moves I've ever heard

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[–] makyo@lemmy.world 55 points 1 day ago

What are they even defending here. Even if they were 18 year old trafficked women it would be heinous.

It’s not like he was dating young girls or some shit, this is about sex crimes of which their age is only one of the awful awful factors.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 47 points 1 day ago (3 children)

When you start making defenses that involve distinguishing between pedophilia and hebephilia you lost a long time ago.

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[–] medicsofanarchy@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago

Getting out in front of the Epstein release I see.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Law enforcement baits out pedos to arrest using fake 16 year olds all day long. They can't spin this.

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[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Here it begins. Republicans will want to normalize pedophilia.

These people are sick. Saying this is public should earn a person an automatic 48 hour mental welfare hold.

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[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"This is this person's view, who was there for a lot of this, but that he was into the barely legal type. Like, he liked 15-year-old girls," she continued. "I'm just giving you facts that he wasn't into, like, 8-year-olds. But he liked the very young teen types that could pass for even younger than they were, but would look legal to a passerby."

"And that is what I believed and that is what I reliably was told for many years."

Kelly admitted that she began to change her opinion after Attorney General Pam Bondi claimed that Epstein had thousands of videos with child sexual abuse material.

"For the first time, I thought, oh, no, he was an actual pedophile," the conservative host recalled.

Megan "I was fine with him fucking teenagers" Kelly, everyone.

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 day ago (3 children)

But he liked the very young teen types that could pass for even younger than they were, but would look legal to a passerby."

How does this make any sense at all? How does one "pass as even younger" but still somehow "look legal to passersby"? Those are directly conflicting concepts.

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[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago

I wonder if I'm even capable of being so dedicated to someone that I'd become such a gross fucking weirdo to defend them.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Fuuuuuuuuuck

"This is this person's view, who was there for a lot of this, but that he was into the barely legal type. Like, he liked 15-year-old girls," she continued. "I'm just giving you facts that he wasn't into, like, 8-year-olds. But he liked the very young teen types that could pass for even younger than they were, but would look legal to a passerby."

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

15 still isn't legal though.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Plus, she's saying epstein went as young as he could get away with. That he liked the 13 year olds.

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[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

barely legal

15

Someone explain to this bitch what "barely" means.

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[–] MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl 27 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (4 children)

goddamn this fucking talking point is spreading. Just yesterday I was watching a video where some maga piece of shit was questioning a streamer about why he thinks its wrong that adults rape 13 year olds. Pretty soon we're going to have absolutely no choice except physical violence.

for ref: https://www.reddit.com/r/CringeTikToks/comments/1ovted6/we_breathe_the_same_air_as_these_people/

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[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 day ago (3 children)

He's a hebephile not a pedophile isn't much of a defence. So he goes after 11+yo children instead of children less than 11yo? Also most people don't know, or rightly care, about the age distinction - both are child abusers.

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[–] varjen@lemmy.world 23 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

If you use the definition of hebephilia or ephebophilia as an argument about anything I'm going to think of you as a pedophile.

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[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 21 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

The Narcissists Prayer

That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad. <----- We are here
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.

progress at last

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 19 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Oh, they're going the "explaining the difference between a pedophile, a hebephile, and a ephebophile" route. Let's see if it works out for them.

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[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

REPUBLICANS LOVE CHILD RAPE

simple as that.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

The "um it's ackchually ephebophilia" is spreading to the auth-right!

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"Raping 12 year olds is OK"

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[–] Hello_there@fedia.io 14 points 1 day ago

The child bride party strikes again

[–] Ibex@lemmy.world 13 points 19 hours ago

The damage control has started. The bad thing is I can see some people being ok with her statements.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 13 points 1 day ago (5 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distinction_without_a_difference

A distinction without a difference is a type of logical fallacy where an author or speaker attempts to describe a distinction between two things where no discernible difference exists.[1] It is particularly used when a word or phrase has connotations associated with it that one party to an argument prefers to avoid.

For example, a person might say "I did not lie; I merely stretched the truth a little bit."[2]

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[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I would bet good money that she banged a guy in his 30s when she was 15 and she is REALLY invested in maintaining the personal illusion that she wasn't victimized.

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