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I posted this in the other thread, but wanna share here too:
Most interesting thing to me is the Frame apparently runs a Snapdragon 8 Gen 3, and is using SteamOS, implying official ARM support for SteamOS, Steam and Proton! Could mean steam and proton coming to android too.
And the base would be Arch Linux ARM, right? So that should see an uptick in development too.
Arch Linux has been implementing a build system for other architectures. Perhaps they'll make ARM official by the time Frame comes out.
I’m still a little curious how that will work for games. Are they going to somehow emulate Win32 amd64 games? Do devs have to recompile them in some new way? Will engines support it beyond Unity and Unreal?
It was mentioned in the LTT coverage. Aside from native ARM games they have a translation layer(FEX) to play x86 games on ARM. They'll have a "Verified" tag like the Steam Deck for compatibility. I assume you'll still be able to force trying to run unverified games.
Edit: FEX is not a Valve thing, but an existing open source x86/x86_64 emulator that Valve is using. It's not clear if they're forking it or directly contributing though.
Yup, FEX to translate x86 to ARM.
Dang. The new Steam Controller has a D-pad, buttons, thumbsticks, gyros, and trackpads.
And the thumbsticks are TMR (like Hall effect, but nicer).
As long as it's comfortable to reach all that stuff, that's gonna be a new bar for PC game controllers.
EDIT: and grip sensors.
EDIT2: and four haptic feedback motors, two in the trackpads.
Now if it just had a replaceable battery...
It does! Verge reports that battery pops out like old cellphone batteries
Nice!
Edit: do you have to disassemble the controller (with a screwdriver or something) or is it accessible with just my hands? I swap (rechargeable) AAs on my XBox360 controller quite a bit, and part of why I like it is that I can do it quickly if the battery dies while playing.
Looks like you'll have to remove the entire bottom shell. From GN's video:
The shell doesn't seem to have a separately removable battery cover, although I don't see a reason why someone wouldn't be able to just cut a hole or 3D-print an accessible shell. Dbrand comes to mind. Or that's just a show piece and the retail product might have a battery cover.
It also looks like the screw posts don't have threaded metal inserts, which is concerning.
I personally think the Deck is very comfortable given its bulk. I have a lot of faith in the controller ergonomics.
Only one company has apparently learned how to print money and not be ghouls.
To be fair, they say they made a lot of tradeoffs in the name of being price conscience, but they haven't put a price on it yet.
Sometimes I think about how LOATHED Steam was when it launched. That was probably valid even. Still, it feels worth noting that Valve is maybe THE only company from my childhood that feels like it largely stayed true to its spirit, or whatever.
I was one of the haters when it first launched because I was on dialup at the time and physical discs I bought were forcing me to install steam AND THEN install a massive patch that did not work on dialup. My first day playthrough of Skyrim was ruined because of that. Took a week for that shit to download even though I went physically to a store.
But now Steam is the last man standing between us and corporate greed.
People who came to Steam later on probably don’t realise that when it was new it barely fucking worked.
Downloads crawled, games refused to launch because of authentication issues, friends/chat was offline for literally months, etc.
The only reason it became widely adopted was because Valve forced you to use it if you wanted to play the latest CS or, later, HL2. Everyone hated it.
friends/chat was offline for literally months
Friends lists didn't work reliably for years.
Been waiting for a competitor to the meta quest. Looks like my patience has paid off. I hope it’s not too pricey/compromised
"The Frame headset won't be priced higher than the Index":
A brief moment of KDE desktop shown.
2026 will be the year of Linux Desktop!
I want them all, but mostly the Frame. Finally decent Linux VR? On a standalone device that can also stream from a PC? On ARM?! It seems too good to be true.
And: "cheaper than the index“ Sure that only means less than 1000usd (unless they mean the headset only price at 500....?) but that's still better than I was assuming it'd be.
The controller is exactly what I wanted. Take a Steam Deck, cut out the middle, glue the grips back together. Take my money.
Steam Dk
And even then there's some nice QOL features like capacitive strips on the grips.
Finally! I've been holding out for years waiting on steam to release a new VR set, time to finally get one!
Lets fucking go! This lineup looks sick.
NGL the cube thingy looks so damn attractive to me, especially as I don't own any form of PC gaming...
Now please Steam, officially sell to Mexico god damn it!
I’ll buy you one and sell it. You gotta pay shipping to send it across the border. If the thing breaks, send it back to me in the U.S. and I’ll file a warranty on your behalf. I’m just a dude who wants other people to play games and have never done something like this before.
Dm me if you are interested.
This is so fucking good for linux gaming
The frame being a standalone linux headset is huge, hopefully this does to vr what the deck did to pancake.
(I know vr works on linux already but it's a pain)
I hope the Frame is as cheap or cheaper than a Meta Quest 3. It's almost identical in the specs, but goes back to monochrome external cameras instead of full color. But also has eye tracking which the Q3 does not. I want eye tracking so fucking bad... I set up cameras for it before I was like "Hold up... They can't see my eyes with the headset on 😬" lol
Hmm this makes me wonder if the Steam Deck 2 will be ARM. If the Steam Frame works well if that could be a way for Valve to push more performance/battery life out of the deck
As someone still using Steam Controller 1 on the daily, I am stoked to see that they have not abandoned the trackpads. Civ from the couch ftw.
Glad to have sold my Index this past summer. Prices are gonna plummet once V.2 comes out
Hell yeah! I have an upgrade path for my original Steam Controllers!
One under the radar feature of the Frame's controllers is being able to use them without the headset as essentially a normal controller split in two.
I can’t wait to get the controller
These were the prices of the first generation: (Wikipedia Steam Machine US$400–$600; Steam Controller $49.99
These sound absolutely amazing but it all depends on the price.
if the Steam controller is on par with a new 8bitdo then I would definitely pick it up.
The steam machine sounds intriguing but there is already a big market for mini PCs and I don't know if consumers would go out of their way to buy a steam PC box. I'm most skeptical about this one
Steam Frame looks fantastic but I really hope it's cheap enough to compete with the Meta Quest 3 and isn't just another ~$1000 headset for enthusiasts
I don’t know if consumers would go out of their way to buy a steam PC box
There could never be a better test for the hypothesis than this critical moment where people are fucking pissed at Microsoft.
