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... Instead of money going to insurance companies, it goes into a fund, where people can buy insurance using it... from insurance companies? So the money instead of going to insurance companies goes to... Insurance companies.

I think by "buy their own health insurance," he means they can get their own health coverage. Basically, a health savings account like they have existed for decades.

I look forward to the day when people start calling around ten different ambulance companies to negotiate the best price to get them to the hospital, after calling ten hospitals to find out which one has the best deals. Maybe 911 can add an ad-supported service for that? "We have a special for shooting victims tonight!"

...Which is what we used to have. And it sucked.

It's like people don't remember how bad shit was pre-Obamacare.

Don't forget to check their credit, no deadbeats need apply!

It's so cool that a bunch of my family did 23 and me. I'm sure they're on top of that data

Let me see if I can run down a hypothetical.

Me: Hey, I can't afford this insurance!

Insurer: Don't want it? Don't buy it!

I was stressing out just trying to read my fucking work benefit options last week...

When it comes to healthcare I want to feel like a European not an entrepreneur. I hate negotiating and I'm bad at it. But even if not I don't have leverage. And it's not like they'll let you negotiate, they'll say "80% of your paycheck, take it or leave it"

That pretty much happens every time any government tries to introduce an "economy kickstart benefit".

See for example, Hungary. The government introduced "CSOK" a few years back, which was basically a "start your family" free money kit - if you marry and have X kids within Y years of taking part in this program, you get to keep the money for free, no need to pay it back, otherwise it turns into a loan (with sub-market rates mind you so it's worth taking even if you don't want kids).

The amount per family was fixed, at IIRC 20 million HUF, or around $60k USD.

Guess what happened?

Property prices shot up, practically overnight, by that amount.

Yeah, I had a quote for a system just before the subsidy increase, and then a few years later, got another quote, and after accounting for inflation, it went up by quite a bit more than the increase.

On the other hand though, while it's not quite savings passed on to the consumer, it is encouraging the installers to prioritize that technology over other less efficient alternatives. So I suppose it depends on what the end goal is.

That's the neat part.

It's ok because your preexisting conditions not being covered will mean you don't really have much incentive to actually buy it

So.... it's even easier for the phone support to end up with the insurance company? Shocker

The only problem is when the GOP shuts the government down again and they stop making any payments for any of it

Not that private sector insurance is good but I don’t think I want Congress in charge of my healthcare either, so they can take it away from scary brown people and create the “death panels” they’ve always dreamt of

This is on brand for someone throwing a Great Gatsby party while fighting legal battles to ensure people on food stamps are starving.

In his head they're just winning on top of winning. "Look at all the profits for me and my friends!"

The lack of awareness is breathtaking, I agree.

If we passed single payer healthcare comparable to first world countries I would accept it being called Trump Care.

Make a single payer system and call it Trumpcare. I’d be ok with that since I don’t give a shit what it’s called.

Yep.

His genius plan is an HSA but your regular insurance subsidy money goes in there too and you can somehow negotiate healthcare prices yourself better than an insurance company can in a system designed to benefit insurers.

and yeah, if you have this balance, and can ONLY spend it on health insurance... okay, the basic plan costs exactly as much as the government gives everyone. There's no advantage in spending less since you can't use it for anything else.

Troomp is stupid enough to not see how idiotic that is, but other people in his criminal cabinet are not.