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[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 45 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I love chilli's for this. They've developed spiciness to discourage getting eaten. We made an entire fucking menu out of it.

[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 29 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 7 hours ago

nicotine in plants are poisonous to people too, because it has high enough concentration, it developed as a defense against caterpillars, which some bugs have evolved resistance. another one is aristholcia, some species are so toxic that a different butterfly not adapted to it will die eating it, even if the caterpillar is adapted to another type of the flower.

[–] iamericandre@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Thought you meant the restaurant at first

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 28 points 20 hours ago (2 children)
[–] MTZ@lemmy.world 33 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah I didn't realize that they were not technically plants until after I made the post. Ooopsie. I mean, I knew that they were fungi, but I thought fungi were considered plants. But I know now that I was mistaken.

[–] djmikeale@feddit.dk 27 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

To be fair, I think it fits the format quite well - would the high guy know mushrooms aren't plants? We don't know!

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 10 points 17 hours ago

He's high as fuck, of course he'd call it an umbrella plant!

[–] Flames5123@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago

We didn’t even formally classify the fungi kingdom until 1969. We still classified it under plantae kingdom.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 18 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Look at hot peppers. Task failed successfully.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 10 points 20 hours ago

Is it possible they evolved to taste delicious, but give explosive diarrhea sending the seeds everywhere?

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 14 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I don't understand how psilocybin evolved multiple times. I don't see it as a defense because animals aren't likely to conflate tripping balls with something they ate an hour previous.

[–] CrackedLinuxISO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

It looks like the evolutionary advantage is still debated. There's a newer hyopethsis that, because psilocybin evolved during a period of heightened gastropod diversity, it could be defence against snails.

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

In confused as to how it's not considered a spore distribution strategy because mammals like tripping balls and spores can survive digestion... 🤷

[–] greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

I believe Psilocybin cubensis evolved with this in mind, where the spores get on grass, then they do their funky thing in the cow guts. Cow poops them out and the mushrooms come out of the cow pies.

This could be the case with most/all dung loving mushrooms, IDK I'm just an amateur grower.

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

The spores in the cap are also active but with cubensis in low wind they tend to drop on neighboring caps. So being eaten directly and spread should have a higher load transited.

I'm no scientist either so take my thoughts with a cow pie.

I just remembered that shaggy mane, another dung loving species, tends to grow on leech fields or wherever septic tanks live. So I think they will just grow anywhere there's poop, no need to be eaten.

[–] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago

"Hey Grug, this shroom makes me understand the will of the great mammoth in the sky, let's plant a shit-ton of it, just in case we need mammoth-advice in the future"

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 11 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

To be fair, it's not something most people want to consume regularly. I've done shrooms multiple times and even with the best experiences I've felt like one a year might be too often.

[–] MTZ@lemmy.world 12 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

I was in a clinical trial at Johns Hopkins to treat PTSD with psilocybin about 8 or 9 years ago and I was basically cured of it. When I first went in, I was textbook with several symptoms. After the trial, no symptoms whatsoever. I had taken psilo several dozen times before that, but I had never actually thought about the therapeutic potential. After the trial, I had a completely different level of respect for them. I take them 4x per year now to maintain my positive mental health, no more, no less.

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

Psychedelic assisted therapy is incredible. Challenging. My therapist can only prescribe weed and ketamine so we use those. People think I'm in there having fun and getting doped up, and I mean, yes occasionally I do get fun sessions, but generally we have done a lot of heavy lifting, an interactive exchange designed to pin me into my body, where I have trouble wanting to go.

I've heard one or two sessions with pure MDMA can resolve quite a lot of c-ptsd symptoms for good, but alas I am clean from street drugs and can't go chasing it, and darknet seems too risky these days. So I guess I wait for the law to change.

[–] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 4 points 13 hours ago

That's incredible! I'd love to be able to take advantage of that (gosh, alcohol is such a shitty drug!).

I've got nothing like PTSD however, so maybe I should keep counting my blessings

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

There are people who trip weekly or biweekly.

[–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

Yeah we call that toasted

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Yeah I may seek them out from time to time, but I seek out criminis more

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 12 hours ago

Caffeine is an insecticide plants invented to not get eaten by bugs.

Now manthings farm those plants.

[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 10 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

"The only way to communicate with this species is by consuming it. Curious."

[–] MTZ@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

It's also a very good method of communicating with God and aliens.

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 10 points 12 hours ago

I've spoken to the mushrooms about this several times, they get us all in the end anyway so they think it's funny.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The mushroom is the reproductive organ of the fungus.

[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Ew, also I like it in my pasta, tacos, and pizza.

[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 3 points 2 hours ago

Tacos??

That's mighty adventurous.

[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Isn't it a line of defense against insects?
"Animals" would be broad enough to be true,
"Mammals" zoomed in on the wrong kingdom.

Which may be even better as a joke, here's this thing smug in having finally found a technique to defend itself against a 100 million year foe, like Moe throwing insect Barney out of his bar, and here's mammal Barney behind Moe again!

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 3 points 20 hours ago

I've come to find that if your chemicals do things we want them.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 7 hours ago

some will cause delerium, in the same genus, family that cause hallicinations, they can destroy the liver, hence the destroying angels.