I, for one, am incredibly excited to see widespread inconvenience for the middle class. Hopefully this will wake some of these people the fuck up. The super rich still won't be effected enough, but maybe this will help stir up some malcontent against Orange Julius from the people unaffected by SNAP cuts.
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The FAA is set to start cutting flights to contend with delays and staffing shortages
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Just in time for the holiday season too.
Private planes are still reliant on ATC, especially at out of the way, low traffic airports that will be the first to see cuts
If they're that low traffic, won't they just go uncontrolled?
You're so right, I always forget about GA.
If they stopped providing services to FL180+ non-part-121 traffic they'd see way more reduction in load than just cancelling a little 121 traffic. Idk if anyone has looked at the unfiltered flight trackers but there are a fuck ton of private/business jets up in the flight levels and they're not flying as predictable of routes (usually into smaller satellite airports near the main ones). They can't do that though because it would upset all the rich people.
Maybe we should just reject all IFR flight plans with less than 20 passengers other than life flights. Make the rich fly low and slow.
So also cancel ALL cargo flights. Got it.
Don't threaten me with a good time
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Bonus points for VRF into IMC accidents thinning the billionaires out a bit. We can then call Gulfstreams "T tailed billionaire killers"
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I thought I was on /r/flying for a sec. Nice to see aviation people in Lemmy
I was at work when i made the original comment and didn't realize there were that many fellow aviation people here. I love to see it, but I feel like I would have put more thought into my comment if I'd known.
i got interested after the oceangate disaster, because many of the aviation subs were chiming in, because the "sub" was made from defective airplane parts.
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What does the American middle class “waking up” look like?
After actually thinking about it, a general strike would be pretty lit.
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The super rich still won’t be effected enough
Not majorly, but less commerce translates to less money for them because they profit off of all of our legal transactions.
Gorsh, if only the FAA had more employees. Did the FAA use to have more employees? What happened to them? /sarcasm
Honestly, I wonder how long til we have to close down an airport because staff just stops showing up entirely. I feel like absenteeism has to have gone exponential.
With the expense of flights, I also do think a lot about whether or not this disproportionately affects demographics who were more likely to have voted for Trump.
Wait......you think the vast majority of trump voters are wealthy?
Uhhhhhh........I don't even know how to respond to that without feeling like I'm talking down to you.
It can disproportionately affect them without most of them being wealthy.
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You don't think they will find a way to blame Biden?
Just in time for the holidays, I’m here for it. Time for the middle class to wake the fuck up.
You guys have a middle class?
Guessing middle class is... college students with rich AF parents that pay to fly them home... and people really well set, but not quite in the private jet level.
The shutdown accelerated this, but it's far from the root cause. Even when it lifts, it's still on a bad trajectory.
Can't reduce training standards without causing lots of other problems.
Automation in older ways is possible but complicated. More modern AI would be a disaster. Though they might try.
There isn't really an answer. Air travel can't continue as it was, and there aren't enough plans for trains to come close to making up for it.
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I'm still trying to process the fact that a moron known for being on "The Real World" is Transportation Secretary. And it's been months.
remember he also redirected his wifes flight away from the affected areas during the doge cuts of the atc.
Everything is just so. Fucking. Stupid.
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Cut only private jets.
Upvoted you, but they frequently fly out of smaller/private airports that don't have direct ATC control anyway, so it's unlikely that's a significant contributor to a solution. Though I definitely agree it should be done at whatever scale it can be to improve general conditions.
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Thanks for the laugh!
Richest country on the fucking planet yet we ~~can't~~ won't pay ATC 🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦
If we can't even hold the nation hostage, what's the point of authoritarian control?!
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I'm so glad I'm flying to one of the nations busiest airports next week.
If you're a right wing libertarian or neoliberal who believes that governments are always corrupt, inefficient and incompetent, the best way to prove yourself right is to ensure that the government is always corrupt, inefficient and incompetent.
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Thanks trump! Thanks Rs!
This can't be good for the economy.
Take away pay from house & senate members while the government is shut down, they don't deserve the special treatment. Then we'll see how fast this all gets resolved.
Train the house and senate to do air traffuc control work.
"Plane crashes up 3000%"
But some how they are all Boeing planes.
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Mother fucker. My wife my toddler and I are supposed to fly out on the 15th.
I really hope I don't get stuck in like.... Delaware.... With a 2 year old and no way home.
Oh well small price to pay for insurance coverage for folks that probably voted against their best interests.
I guess.
Thank you for the gif.
Because of that movie, Delaware is my go to for random ass place.
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Took them long enough, it seems. Apparently lack of traffic controllers wasn't preventing flights last week.
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