I, for one, am incredibly excited to see widespread inconvenience for the middle class. Hopefully this will wake some of these people the fuck up. The super rich still won't be effected enough, but maybe this will help stir up some malcontent against Orange Julius from the people unaffected by SNAP cuts.
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The FAA is set to start cutting flights to contend with delays and staffing shortages
(www.nbcnews.com)
Just in time for the holiday season too.
If they stopped providing services to FL180+ non-part-121 traffic they'd see way more reduction in load than just cancelling a little 121 traffic. Idk if anyone has looked at the unfiltered flight trackers but there are a fuck ton of private/business jets up in the flight levels and they're not flying as predictable of routes (usually into smaller satellite airports near the main ones). They can't do that though because it would upset all the rich people.
Maybe we should just reject all IFR flight plans with less than 20 passengers other than life flights. Make the rich fly low and slow.
So also cancel ALL cargo flights. Got it.
Don't threaten me with a good time
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I thought I was on /r/flying for a sec. Nice to see aviation people in Lemmy
I was at work when i made the original comment and didn't realize there were that many fellow aviation people here. I love to see it, but I feel like I would have put more thought into my comment if I'd known.
i got interested after the oceangate disaster, because many of the aviation subs were chiming in, because the "sub" was made from defective airplane parts.
Can I be the honorary /u/PM_ME_YOUR_EMPENNAGE? I promise I won't let this go to my head
You just need to find an instance that doesn't have that name registered (it's probably all of them)
Private planes are still reliant on ATC, especially at out of the way, low traffic airports that will be the first to see cuts
If they're that low traffic, won't they just go uncontrolled?
You're so right, I always forget about GA.
The super rich won't be directly affected but their businesses will.
they wont be safe in thier bunkers, or compounds either, because you have to pay for staff, pluss things to remove waste and maitanence
yet
What does the American middle class “waking up” look like?
After actually thinking about it, a general strike would be pretty lit.
You think Americans will think? We have wildly different predictions for how that scenario plays out.
🤷 yeah, you're probably right. Gotta have hope to make it through the day at this point.
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If i miss a week of work I am fucked.
Join a union, they should have a strike fund to at least help you get by.
Else, take PTO if you can, and just sandbag at work if you can't.
I am in the weed industry. We don't have a union yet.
They will all band together and help musk make all flight controller run by private companies
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Just in time for the holidays, I’m here for it. Time for the middle class to wake the fuck up.
You guys have a middle class?
Guessing middle class is... college students with rich AF parents that pay to fly them home... and people really well set, but not quite in the private jet level.
Gorsh, if only the FAA had more employees. Did the FAA use to have more employees? What happened to them? /sarcasm
Honestly, I wonder how long til we have to close down an airport because staff just stops showing up entirely. I feel like absenteeism has to have gone exponential.
With the expense of flights, I also do think a lot about whether or not this disproportionately affects demographics who were more likely to have voted for Trump.
Wait......you think the vast majority of trump voters are wealthy?
Uhhhhhh........I don't even know how to respond to that without feeling like I'm talking down to you.
It can disproportionately affect them without most of them being wealthy.
Wealthy people will be less affected. They will get a different flight and just charge it. Poorer people will need to wait for a refund or insurance to pay to get an alternative.
I would also expect that the workers in states with less social benefits are more likely to have the staff not show up as they have to earn money elsewhere.
You don't think they will find a way to blame Biden?
The shutdown accelerated this, but it's far from the root cause. Even when it lifts, it's still on a bad trajectory.
Can't reduce training standards without causing lots of other problems.
Automation in older ways is possible but complicated. More modern AI would be a disaster. Though they might try.
There isn't really an answer. Air travel can't continue as it was, and there aren't enough plans for trains to come close to making up for it.
I'm still trying to process the fact that a moron known for being on "The Real World" is Transportation Secretary. And it's been months.
remember he also redirected his wifes flight away from the affected areas during the doge cuts of the atc.
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If you're a right wing libertarian or neoliberal who believes that governments are always corrupt, inefficient and incompetent, the best way to prove yourself right is to ensure that the government is always corrupt, inefficient and incompetent.
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I'm so glad I'm flying to one of the nations busiest airports next week.
Cut only private jets.
Thanks for the laugh!
Thanks trump! Thanks Rs!
Richest country on the fucking planet yet we ~~can't~~ won't pay ATC 🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦
Mother fucker. My wife my toddler and I are supposed to fly out on the 15th.
I really hope I don't get stuck in like.... Delaware.... With a 2 year old and no way home.
Oh well small price to pay for insurance coverage for folks that probably voted against their best interests.
I guess.
Thank you for the gif.
Because of that movie, Delaware is my go to for random ass place.
My condolences. That fucking blows. I really hope it works okay for you and your family
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Took them long enough, it seems. Apparently lack of traffic controllers wasn't preventing flights last week.
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